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« on: December 29, 2011, 08:33:48 PM »

Despite being a non-voting anarchist, I am still glued to the Presidential race. I think Paul will take Iowa.

What do you guys think?

As I just wrote the word "guys" it dawned on me that we really have no women in this forum.  Cry
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 08:41:42 PM »

Despite being a non-voting anarchist, I am still glued to the Presidential race. I think Paul will take Iowa.

What do you guys think?

I think he will be close, maybe take Iowa.  I think New Hampshire is going to fall to Romney though.  

As I just wrote the word "guys" it dawned on me that we really have no women in this forum.  Cry

The liberty movement as a whole is pretty much a sausage fest.  I think I brought that up yesterday, or was that this morning? hehe
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 09:08:10 PM »

Check this out: http://www.facebook.com/RonPaulPolls

He's winning all the polls there!

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The liberty movement as a whole is pretty much a sausage fest.  I think I brought that up yesterday, or was that this morning? hehe

Tongue Male to female ratio on this board alone: 10.5:1.


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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 09:22:48 PM »

Try sorting the member list by posts.  Of those with more than a handful of posts, I think they are all male.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 09:50:30 PM »

Despite being a non-voting anarchist, I am still glued to the Presidential race. I think Paul will take Iowa.

What do you guys think?

As I just wrote the word "guys" it dawned on me that we really have no women in this forum.  Cry

I feel a little better about myself now.  I've been watching the race pretty closely as well--and feeling a smidgen guilty about it.  But you know what, it's great entertainment and Ron Paul doing well is good for the message of liberty.

No women on the forum.  Hmmm.  I think out of the half dozen or so anarchists I know there is only one woman.  Why doesn't anarchy appeal to women?

Edit: Caucus prediction: Paul takes the popular ("straw") vote.  The delegates may or may not actually hand him the victory.  Either way, I plan to drink.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 10:02:03 PM »

Why doesn't anarchy appeal to women?

Good question. I think we need some entrepreneurship in our outreach to women. We're obviously not doing a very good job of it right now.

Maybe male anarcho-capitalists need to be better "playas" so we can win some women over and convert them? Grin That would be a win-win scenario, for the Cause and ourselves.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 10:02:26 PM »

No women on the forum.  Hmmm.  I think out of the half dozen or so anarchists I know there is only one woman.  Why doesn't anarchy appeal to women?

I really think it has to do with the whole democrat take care of people bit.  They see that as humane, and don't see the consequences.  I've noticed new mothers I have encountered (not claiming all!) are also more than happy to put a gun to your head to pay for education and national defense/police and go from anti drug war to pro drug war.  

The democrat/socialist I converted is female.  It can be done!  
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 10:28:53 PM »

New marketing campaigns:

Anarchy for Mothers

Anarcho-capitalism: Because Social Justice Matters

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 12:41:24 AM »

No women on the forum.  Hmmm.  I think out of the half dozen or so anarchists I know there is only one woman.  Why doesn't anarchy appeal to women?

I really think it has to do with the whole democrat take care of people bit.  They see that as humane, and don't see the consequences.  I've noticed new mothers I have encountered (not claiming all!) are also more than happy to put a gun to your head to pay for education and national defense/police and go from anti drug war to pro drug war. 
Stef made a video covering this topic. Governments are "parents," we're the "children." Caring mother on the left, spartan father on the right. That's supposed to be the hidden meaning of the paradigm.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 02:25:22 AM »

On the ladies topic:

In the past year or so, I've had three girls ask me about my political inclinations while on a date (that's right, they brought it up, not me) and I answered, "Oh, I'm an anarchist." I then gave them a brief description of NAP and told them about the difference between capitalists and syndicalists to clear up the media misconceptions.  Then they stopped returning my phone calls...

I might be doing something wrong, how do you recommend ice breaking this? 


And I think Paul might actually take Iowa, they've been talking about him way too much for it not to be a serious threat. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 02:45:04 AM »

An-cap is female repellent.  I've noticed the same issue.  You might be safer just going with the more acceptable umbrella of libertarian.  That is not usually acceptable either though.  As the old saying goes, don't talk about politics, religion, or something else I forgot because it is the middle of the night.  

You would likely have better luck going with the stereotype anarchist than going with ancap and NAP.  As sad as that is...
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 05:15:45 AM »

I answered, "Oh, I'm an anarchist."

Definitely don't do that, in my opinion. I would use the term libertarian with anyone you are less familiar with, and perhaps using the term anarcho-capitalist with those you are far more familiar with. I wouldn't use the term anarchist except a) around other ancaps, or b) around other schools of anarchists, with whom you can later go into the difference.

It's suicide to just go in right away with the term anarchism. Introduce it gradually, and come out as an Anarcho-Capitalist to those who you know very well. (Again, don't even say "anarchist" to those who you know well).

The issue here is that one can be an anarchist and support aggression. All anarchy means is absence of government. By definition, it doesn't say anything else. You have to add in the "capitalism" right away, or that gives the impression you support aggression. Only use anarchy as shorthand amongst your fellows.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 08:14:22 AM »

hey now, I'm a lady!  However, maybe the theory of women more often being lefties because of their motherly nature is still true.  I've never been very lady like or motherly and I don't like kids.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 08:31:26 AM »

A gal I knew from high school was at some point involved in this http://santacruz.freeskool.org/content/about-free-skool-santa-cruz
I think she might be an anarchist.  Maybe stuff like this appeals more to women.  Certainly seems to have a lot of female names involved.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 10:14:06 AM »

As I just wrote the word "guys" it dawned on me that we really have no women in this forum.  Cry

I tend to use "guys" as being gender neutral. By the way I suppose you mean woman as in sex (as opposed to gender)?

I don't know for sure that we don't have any women here. In fact I don't think I ever introduced myself as being either male gender or sex specifically. It seems to have been assumed, I guess maybe based on my male sounding nickname. Male is often assumed on the internet, but I'm not longer sure its the case that the internet is predominantly male. I get the idea that a lot of women might be around, but might be more comfortable in their anonymity. I'm not even sure this is a bad thing. Internet is about the only place you can communicate with other people without knowing their sex, skin colour and other physical features and making assumptions based on that knowledge.

This anonymity has faded a little with things such as voice chat, webcams and youtube. But its still there for the people that want or need it. There are disadvantages to this anonymity, but there are advantages too. Think of people who consider their "gender role" to be different from one that is expected of their "biological sex".

I don't really care about how many 'men' or 'women' we have on DA, just like I don't really care about how many 'african-americans' or 'Wasps' (hate those PC terms) we have or how many 'homosexuals'  or 'straight people' we have. The internet is the one place for me where I can talk to a person without having to first fight off my own prejudice. I actually kind of like the anonymity here. I consider myself gender neutral, I've been thought a female once in a while on the internet, but on the internet I guess I tend to hang towards being male as that is the more accepted gender role. I'll keep my biological sex hidden, because I don't really think its something we should care about here. Eventually some of you might find out when I come to NH Wink.

hey now, I'm a lady!  However, maybe the theory of women more often being lefties because of their motherly nature is still true.  I've never been very lady like or motherly and I don't like kids.

Getting people to accept the difference between biological sex and gender is the next big challenge to overcome. We've made great progress with feminism and the LGBT movement, but theres still much work to do in overcoming sex based stereotypes.

An-cap is female repellent.  

I'm not sure. Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. It's like telling people with a certain skin colour that they will have a hard life because of how racist the world is. Just by repeating it to them over and over you will make it true.

I think this is why we still have so much racism, because we are looking for it everywhere, instead of letting it die alone in a corner.
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