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AuNero
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 10:09:57 AM »

We already have Voluntaryism (as Seth has said).  

Most human interaction is in line with the NAP.  There are people who violate the NAP and there always will be. Our goals are to decrease the number of violations and to educate people as to what is right and what is wrong so that they will support different social structures and rules.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 11:43:11 AM »

Not all of them are violent.  How would you even do a thing like that anyway?

Well - for now I'm going to stop carrying "peaceful conversations" with them as soon as they declare their willingness to communize my property..  and this is about the tactical advantage of a first strike I was talking about. Instead of responding to their "bourgeois" - and what not - accusations I will throw a bunch of "thiefs" and "robbers" at them, which should instantly let all the neutral observers know what this all discussion is about.

And if we talk about the future an-cap society, then possibly subscribing to the law that says "any propositions of abolishing the NAP principle are illegal" could save us a lot of headache. We really don't have a whole bunch of regulations (and we probably are quite lucky that after these thousands of years we discovered the NAP in first place), but these few which are the core of a whole system are to important to let them vanish again at some momentary swing of relative powers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 02:53:09 PM »

Defense doesn't necessarily mean you let them choose the battlefield.  Much like current terrorist groups that make their intentions known, their threats(especially if other signs show more inclination to carry them out) would justify keeping an eye on them.  With solid evidence of intention, you could make an argument that something like buying lots of ammo is violation, but certainly when they load up and move out, they're in the wrong.  At that point, all options come into play.  You pick the battlefield that gives you advantage, defeat them in detail.  With proper intelligence and site selection(can't have the excuse "we were just gonna do some plinking in the desert") it's a slam dunk case.
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2013, 10:21:24 PM »

The reality is people fuck when it suits them, trade when it suits them, and kill each other when it suits them.

The point is live your life and put to the sword anyone who tries to oppress you. That is the only way anyone is ever going to be free.

Killers control the world, not pacifists.
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