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« on: May 02, 2013, 12:04:14 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwmr1elnxjg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwmr1elnxjg</a>


 Oh, shit. As if there isn't enough to be concerned about right now, this happens. The good news is that it's not too strong at all, so there's a high success rate of getting rid of it.  

 Thoughts and prayers to him and his family. Stef is the last person that any of us want to lose. He's too important in this fight.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 01:24:39 PM »

That blows.  Angry

It sounds like he's doing mainstream medicine. I know each person has to do what each person has to do, but I would have thought/hoped somebody in his position of influence would go the alternative route.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 01:32:01 PM »

^I understand your point, Seth. Stef has dedicated himself to outlining the dangers of psych drugs and their effects upon the human mind. With that in mind, I find it odd that he's not questioning the mainstream route, which we all know is dangerous from the get go.

 If you click on the Youtube video, everyone in the comments section is suggesting that Stef take the alt. route. Same goes for the people over at Facebook. I know Stef is an individual that has the right to choose for himself, but I would like him to understand the dangers of what the conventional has in store.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 01:39:04 PM »

What do ya'll ,mean by the alternate route? You seriously aren't suggesting magic crystals and tuning forks right?
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 01:48:50 PM »

^No, no, no, no. We're not referring to the crystal, new age shit. Tongue We're talking about supplementation, dietary changes, hemp. Multiple scientific studies have been done looking at links between hemp oil and cancer treatment. Vitamin D has also been found to provide tremendous support for patients dealing with cancer.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 02:22:03 PM »

I'm talking about stuff like this:

http://dailyanarchist.com/2011/08/27/cure-for-cancer/
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 03:56:22 PM »

I was with MAM there for a second: "Lolwut?"
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 04:42:29 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 04:53:57 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 04:56:59 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

I'm watching it right now, I'm 25 minutes in. When it's over I'll give my thoughts on it etc...
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 05:14:52 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

There's no scientific evidence that Burzynski's method works. If it does, why hasn't he published the results of his clinical trials? Or provided other real evidence, other than an emotional movie with anecdotes?

When I heard about Stefan's condition, I was really sad. But when I read all the comments advocating some form of alternative "medicine", I got really angry. Recommending unscientific bullshit for sick people is disgusting, and it costs lives. I'm surprised his audience doesn't know any better...
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 06:17:28 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

There's no scientific evidence that Burzynski's method works. If it does, why hasn't he published the results of his clinical trials? Or provided other real evidence, other than an emotional movie with anecdotes?

When I heard about Stefan's condition, I was really sad. But when I read all the comments advocating some form of alternative "medicine", I got really angry. Recommending unscientific bullshit for sick people is disgusting, and it costs lives. I'm surprised his audience doesn't know any better...

Did you watch the movie?
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 06:26:38 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

There's no scientific evidence that Burzynski's method works. If it does, why hasn't he published the results of his clinical trials? Or provided other real evidence, other than an emotional movie with anecdotes?

When I heard about Stefan's condition, I was really sad. But when I read all the comments advocating some form of alternative "medicine", I got really angry. Recommending unscientific bullshit for sick people is disgusting, and it costs lives. I'm surprised his audience doesn't know any better...

Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell do a lot of harm.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2013, 06:30:34 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

There's no scientific evidence that Burzynski's method works. If it does, why hasn't he published the results of his clinical trials? Or provided other real evidence, other than an emotional movie with anecdotes?

When I heard about Stefan's condition, I was really sad. But when I read all the comments advocating some form of alternative "medicine", I got really angry. Recommending unscientific bullshit for sick people is disgusting, and it costs lives. I'm surprised his audience doesn't know any better...

I still want you to answer the question above, but I have to say this sort of response really incenses me.

I don't understand how anarchists can see just how corrupt state schools, law, roads etc. are, but think that state medicine is somehow exempt from corruption, and anything that doesn't suck up to corporate medicine is somehow unscientific.

It's the same baseless attack that Global Warming alarmists use to smear skeptics. It's also really pathetic.

 
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2013, 06:30:52 PM »

Well I'm not an expert either, but there are some red flags that I see immediately with this treatment...

I did a quick search and found that the presence of peer review is lacking. I'm weary...



Watch the movie before you judge.

There's no scientific evidence that Burzynski's method works. If it does, why hasn't he published the results of his clinical trials? Or provided other real evidence, other than an emotional movie with anecdotes?

When I heard about Stefan's condition, I was really sad. But when I read all the comments advocating some form of alternative "medicine", I got really angry. Recommending unscientific bullshit for sick people is disgusting, and it costs lives. I'm surprised his audience doesn't know any better...

Did you watch the movie?

After a few minutes I didn't see a reason to continue. But I guess you don't form your opinions on medicine based upon youtube videos neither anyway, right?

(Sorry if I come across as aggressive in this issue. 3 of my grandparents died in cancer, and I know other people too, so I take it quite seriously.)

And I always ask this in such matters: Where is the data?
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