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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 03:39:50 PM »

I'd like to revisit this thread as the subject comes up often.

There's this meme that has been floating around that ties in to the subject of the thread.



"See! Highly educated people vote pro-big government, socialism, and idiots don't. Obviously the smart people are right."

Note: Yes I know they're both statist but the Republicans at least give lip service to "free markets/small government" even if they don't really believe in it. The Democrats have self proclaimed Marxist and Maoist in their ranks.

Anyway, does anybody really have anything to go against this idea that people controlled by the state are happy/smart?
The more time you spend in state indoctrination camps, the more you love the state. The more time you spend in the camps, the harder it is to see the truth, because realizing it's bullshit brings about the good ole' dissonance.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 10:54:31 AM »

I thought I'd reopen this topic so that maybe we could get some actual research/facts on this issue. I'll spend some time over the next week looking for some papers and actual numbers on the material happiness of these countries.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 11:28:55 AM »

I wonder what would happen in these countries if the socialism was voluntary?
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 03:55:16 AM »

6 of these nations are in the top 11 freest economies. The other 4 are in the top 7 in lowest corruption.
 
Happiest Countries:  (Index of Economic Freedom) : [Freedom from Corruption]
1. Norway (31) [6]
2. Denmark   (9)
3. Sweden   (18)   [4]
4. Australia   (3)
5. New Zealand (4)
6. Canada   (6)
7. Finland   (16)   [3]
8. The Netherlands (17) [7]
9. Switzerland (5)
10. Ireland   (11)

Read these:

http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Scandinavia_and_the_social_state

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 06:33:21 AM »

6 of these nations are in the top 11 freest economies. The other 4 are in the top 7 in lowest corruption.
 
Happiest Countries:  (Index of Economic Freedom) : [Freedom from Corruption]
1. Norway (31) [6]
2. Denmark   (9)
3. Sweden   (18)   [4]
4. Australia   (3)
5. New Zealand (4)
6. Canada   (6)
7. Finland   (16)   [3]
8. The Netherlands (17) [7]
9. Switzerland (5)
10. Ireland   (11)

Read these:

http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Scandinavia_and_the_social_state

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/


The comments from that second link made my brain hurt.

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