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randallstevens
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« on: October 21, 2010, 01:09:54 AM »

Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I&list=QL&feature=BF

I'm retarded when it comes to this stuff. How to I embed the video in the post?
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 03:33:51 PM »

I recognized the video as soon as I heard the music start! It's a good one, and really simple.

@randall stevens:
click on the YouTube tool, and then insert the complete URL into it, the same way you would if you were inserting a quote
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I</a>

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 12:44:11 PM »

I disagree with the premise of "The philosophy of liberty is based on the principle of self-ownership."
Self-ownership is inherent; Self-dependence is impossible.

The philosophy of liberty is based on natural rights.
Natural Rights
Natural
    c.1300, naturel, "of one's inborn character, of the world of nature
Rights
    "morally correct," O.E. riht "just, good, fair, proper, fitting, straight,"

For example, You are here; therefore, you have a right to be here. You need to eat; therefore, you have a right to eat, etc.
To enjoy liberty one must protect his/her natural rights.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 01:11:47 PM »

Welcome to the forum!  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 01:32:58 PM »

Thanks Seth. Nice layout on the forum. While I am not an Anarchist, I am here to debate and learn.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 01:43:49 PM »

We need more of your kind. It's been like an echo-chamber around here. Everybody agreeing with each other! Ha!

What is your philosophical background, minarchy? How did you find us?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 02:14:52 PM »

We need more of your kind. It's been like an echo-chamber around here. Everybody agreeing with each other! Ha!

What is your philosophical background, minarchy? How did you find us?
  • Anarcho-capitalism is ideology not reality
  • Sovereign Title to Land
  • Not all taxation should be viewed as theft.
  • Limited government is not only possible, but the best method of achieving liberty, peace and prosperity.
  • Current governments are controlled by elite oligarchies.
  • Laissez-faire free markets are as near perfect as the world achieves
  • The Internet is laissez-faire free market.
  • TV, Radio, Print, Education, et.al. are controlled opposition.
  • The people of the 21st century can achieve new enlightenment.
  • Other


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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 02:37:22 PM »

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I disagree with the premise of "The philosophy of liberty is based on the principle of self-ownership."
Self-ownership is inherent; Self-dependence is impossible.

The philosophy of liberty is based on natural rights.
I think the reason some people like to emphasize self-ownership is because the language surrounding it hasn't been "warped." If I say I own myself, and then trace my stances on different issues all back to this, then I have an anchor that no one will really want to attack. Using a term like "rights" gets really fuzzy really quickly. Lots of people think you don't have the "right" to do something if it's illegal... So there's a semantic barrier to communicating the message of liberty. Many will argue whether you have a "right" to do different things. But very few will challenge the statement of "I own myself, you own yourself," since, as you pointed out, it's "inherent," making it a good starting point for some logical deduction (the end point of said deduction being acceptance of anarchy Grin , haha couldn't resist)
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 04:59:57 PM »

Well, I still consider the minarchists friends seeing as how that's where I came from. I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors. Spreading the message about Ron Paul, especially once he runs again, is going to greatly help the freedom movement. But I hope you'll stick around here and challenge us and read what we have to say. I'm optimistic you'll join our ranks some day.  Wink
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