https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbUDMrH7yb

I was have a discussion with some Zeitgeist Luddites and they rejected all of my constructive suggestions about the market offering the services to make whatever vision they have in mind possible. Then I suggested they volunteer for a sustainable arcology project called arcosanti http://arcosanti.org/. It seemed to be the silver bullet in the discussion. Honestly it's a bad ass project that looks like it needs more volunteer participants. It's only 5% complete after 30 years, but self sustainable. It's meant to house 5,000 people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQeEVnpgH_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCqdvLaBx50

There are more important things than economics. So I'll say dictators ALWAYS do more harm than good.

I'll say the toll booth scenario does constitute as an act of aggression where property is being used as a means of theft. Of course have a boycott, an ultimatum, a negotiation and a buyout offer. But this could only go on for so long, since everybody's lives would be in limbo. If no compromise is reached then an insurrection should be in order.

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Where are you getting this from? Is there a large group of violent commies out there? Maybe I'm ignorant on the subject. As I understand ancoms are a small subset in the libertarian left. There are literally dozens of them.
They must be aware communism was tried before. They were promised utopia, but could only see it across the Berlin Wall. So they tore it down so they could have Hondas and microwaves.
I understand the principal of their concern over some of the exploits of capitalism, so I think it would be fair to show those exploitive practices the door. For example if one company owned all of the roads and their tolls quadrupled living expenses, then the population has the right to tear out the toll booths.

I'm just worried over how far the hate could possibly go....

It would go as far as smashing a Starbucks window, maybe looting an apple store. Maybe a few sleazy hedgefund managers get cornered on wall street. But there isn't the faintest possibility of communists taking over the economy.

Don't worry about the commies, the hateful rhetoric is just rhetoric and will get them nowhere. If ancoms want to create a gift economy, Great! It would be complimentary to an ancap market economy. The way to fight them on an ideology basis is to help them with noble endeavors and withhold support on the not so noble endeavors.

I'd totally help commies build a hospital or university, as long as they keep their services free to all, including capitalists.

I honestly feel confident that the Seasteading Institute will plan ahead with EXTREME caution.

I'm sure they're even more confident, but y'know shit happens.

Yeah I get it. At least it's next door to Berkeley and Oakland. So it has the best of both worlds. Some of architecture around there is very creative. Lot's of Frank Lloyd Wright inspired stuff, where space is used creatively. The lifestyle is pretty fun. The 4th of July lasts until the 6th. The only place I've ever been where you can smoke a blunt in the bed of a speeding truck, while shooting a gun in the air. Lots of dirt bikes and butchered trucks.

I'll say that Berkeley has an interesting economy, the shops are probably 90% locally owned, it's full of co-ops. They are usually very high quality, but not overpriced.

I actually lived in a community built on the libertarian socialist philosophy. It was built in the 60's when there was a draft to dodge. Much of the property ownership is like a squatters condominium. Nobody owns the dirt, but you own what you build. But good luck selling your house, because the county never issued permits and nothing is up to code.
Everybody pitches in to pave the road and pump the water. Some pitch in more than others and nobody trips. If you don't like your neighbor's mess, help them clean it up. If you need help, just ask. If somebody needs your help, it might be worth the time to pay it forward.
Here's a book about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Canyon-Rustic-Community-Metropolitan-America/dp/0615365558

If an actual city were ever to be created, and the general principles of the city and its citizens were based on libertarian or AnCap philosophy, then one state or another would send underwater demolitions team to sink the city.

What you're talking about is warfare. Voluntarism is about removing warfare from the equation.
Do oil companies sink competing offshore rigs? Do competing shipping vessels participate in piracy?

Now there are some dangers. Mostly engineering. Monetizing everything could be a disaster. Concern over the bottom line means cutting corners, so safety measures are questionable. What if you had to buy oxygen. What if you lose your job or your prospects fail and you can't afford to go home.

I'm sure island fever would set in. Some of the top talent/contributors would probably leave after a few years. This would close in to a monopoly or just leave a gaping hole of necessity providers. Then you'd need to attract new talent/contributors at a much, much higher price. This could get dystopic pretty quickly.

I was trying to post something but I kept getting logged out. I'll give it another go.
Commies are in fact assholes. I've only met a couple and they were only motivated by removing economic models, not adding more economic models.
But libertarian socialism isn't necessarily anarcho communism. It can have laissez faire execution by achieving socialist ends through libertarian means. Think about it like a party's beer fund or house mates making ends meet by putting their money in a jar. Scale it up to a democratically owned mutual fund fused with a credit union. You could get pretty creative.
I think central planning works on a small and optional scale. Think about it like how universities are designed, then imagine store fronts, apartments and hospitals, etc. I'm a fan of architects like Soleri, Frank Lloyd Wright and Jacque Fresco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fi6mYjhKI

I keep getting logged out after trying to post.

I've been trying to post on the "problem with hierarchy" thread and it still logs me out. There must be a glitch.

meh. I don't think the anarcho concepts need to be mutually exclusive, as long as they're nonviolent. I actually think syndicalism would be a fair way to regulate labor/living conditions. It doesn't need to be violent. If your boss can fire you, then you can fire your boss. If your landlord can evict you, then you can evict your landlord. If your boss or landlord provide good management skills then you may want to keep them around. Most bosses/landlords get where they are because they have good management skills. They just need to provide a good service.