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16  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Vigilantism on: March 31, 2013, 10:51:11 AM
If by Vigilantism, you mean this, then I fully support it because its badass:

17  General Category / Lounge / Re: Nihilism on: March 30, 2013, 12:22:34 PM
I like to say that life isn't meaningless- it's open ended.

There is no objective meaning, but as humans we get to decide what has meaning for us- our families, our values, our friends, art, etc.

I also think death is a distraction from life, life is not a distraction from death. And I don't say this as an enlightened being- death distracts me much much much more than I would like it too. So I understand where you're coming from. I'm attempting to stop getting distracted by it. I'm alive now. Maybe I always will be. Maybe not. Many physicists even believe that time is not a straight line, and that we have always been here and always will be (it's tough to explain, but if you're interested I'm sure you could look it up). So, in a way we may have already lived and died and just don't remember.

That, right there, is what you need to capture meaning in.  Find the things you love in life and embrace them. 

fully agree
18  General Category / Lounge / Re: So I'm getting ready to quit gaming... on: March 30, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Maybe focusing on your career/schooling. Also just generally hanging out with friends. Those things take up my time- I gave up video games (mostly) and don't miss them. I do still play occasionally though, but it is a rare occasion.
19  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What are rights? Do we have rights? on: March 30, 2013, 11:55:49 AM
On purchasing land:

The libertarian movement, as a whole, is young (most are under 25). Maybe in twenty (or so) years, we will hopefully all be a bit wealthier, with skills that could be used. We could purchase some land then.

However, I do see enforcement as the problem. Are people willing to give up the pretty good lives they have now for a chance at anarchotopia that may or may not work? I'm not sure. At this point, I'm not that committed- too much too lose, too little to gain.
20  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Anyone feel like this as well? on: March 30, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
Don't get me wrong: I think the law is more libertarian than the previous law. However, this worries me to what else the courts can overturn: the law that made marriage between a man and a woman was passed perfectly legally. If the courts can override that just because they don't like it, what else can they do?

Another problem with gay marriage: does this mean that churches are now forced to accept gay couples even if they don't want to? Wouldn't refusing them be "discrimination"? When gay marriage spreads to every state (as I'm sure it will), are the conservative southern southern churches going to be forced to marry gays? I can see a whole host of problems coming.

It's funny how those on the left will support the state action when it favors their position (gay marriage in california, towns voting against fracking, state health care, etc) but when it supports a right wing position of any sort, states having power over the federal government is neo-confederate nonsense.

Of course, this would all be solved if government just got out of marriage all together.

But who cares, it's just those nut-job Christians who hate gays!

21  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Utilitarians let's dance! on: March 30, 2013, 11:38:57 AM

First principle: I own myself
Several steps later: NAP.

^Again, the first principle can't be tested. If you tried, you would find that it's false. Slavery has existed, so the principle doesn't always hold.
If it can't be tested, how can you be sure that it would be false if it could be tested?

I think MAM nailed it: if every first principle is a claim, isn't that statement itself a claim that can't be tested?

It's like saying "there are no absolute truths" (expect that absolute truth of course).

Could it be that I own myself because I'm not a slave, while slaves do not own themselves? But then what determines ownership? Am I 40% a slave because that is how much income is taken?

Ideas can be true and not play out in the real world. What I mean is, I could say slaves in the 1840's owned themselves; just because their freedom was taken away does not make the principle untrue- it makes it impractical in that particular situation. Just like anarchism- is anarcho-capitalism "wrong" because it does not currently exist anywhere? Anarcho Capitalism is an idea (and an ideal), just like the NAP. Just because the ideal is not realized does not mean it isn't worth striving for. (in others words, the ideal is worth striving for. It's practically is irrelevant).

I think the concept of "ownership" doesn't really apply to physical beings, and that is why it is so confusing. Who is doing the "owning" in this case?

22  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Utilitarians let's dance! on: March 30, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
This is an excellent thread with some excellent ideas I hadn't considered before. I especially like the comics explanation.
23  General Category / General Discussion / Re: It hit me a few hours ago.... and now it is personal on: March 15, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Another thing from the "Selective Service System" website that I found ironically hilariously, and that makes me want to cry, which I bolded:

If a draft were held today, it would be dramatically different from the one held during the Vietnam War. A series of reforms during the latter part of the Vietnam conflict changed the way the draft operated to make it more fair and equitable. If a draft were held today, there would be fewer reasons to excuse a man from service.

24  General Category / General Discussion / Re: It hit me a few hours ago.... and now it is personal on: March 15, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
If my understanding is correct, I "have" to register by age 26, but that it is very unlikely to be prosecuted and even more unlikely to be convicted. I also understand that not registering for selective service prevents the following:

1.State Financial Aid

2.Government Jobs

Neither of which I want.

Would not registering have other consequences? For example, if I want to be an accountant/CPA (or something similar)- do most white collar jobs ask to see that you registered? Would accounting be considered a government job- I know that deals with taxes, which is government, but not exactly working for the government, so idk... It sounds kind of cool to be a don-draper type corporate dude with a draft related secret... but I know real life is a bit more serious.

I live the agorist lifestyle, nor do I plan to, but the draft is something that is just plain wrong. I could be a Conscientiousness Objector, but it would be more effective to just not register at all.

So, what are the pro's/con's of registering? Is it worth the risk, in your opinions (practically, not morally). Are any of y'all registered? What do you think the chances are that a serious draft will be reinstated? Thanks.

I don't know what's worse- dying for a government or surviving and having PTSD.  Undecided

EDIT: looking at the military requirements, i'm glad i'm a pale, scrawny, sickly kid who can't do push ups and who throws up after running... hehe
25  Videos / Anarcho-Capitalist Videos / Re: Anarcho-Capitalist Penn Jillette discusses religion/statism on: March 12, 2013, 08:07:25 PM
I love Jillette, it's a shame he hasn't made the logical leap to voluntarism (yet)
26  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What are rights? Do we have rights? on: March 12, 2013, 08:06:03 PM
I'm talking about brining down not one not two but every fucking government in existence. There is never going to be a good time to go. We are always going to be at a disadvantage.
Whoah. This is way too aggressive. Set reasonable goals. I would settle for establishing some sliver of land where we can purchase our freedom from a government. From there, exercise our newly bought freedom to consolidate that sliver and make it impossible to be taken over. Turn it into the financial center of the world. I don't necessarily want to establish freedom for the world. Just those who want it. We'll convince others to want it by example better than we can by writing proofs.

Most people want to be governed, to hell with them. I just want freedom for me, and anyone else who appreciates it.
I'm with I don't give two shits about the vast majority of people. Frankly the world would be a better place if they killed each other. But I don't think we'll be safe until every organized extortion cartel is destroyed it's members and leaders dead and cremated.
I don't know about that, that is generalizing billions of people you don't know.
27  Questions And Challenges / Questions About Anarcho-Capitalism / Re: Global Warming on: March 12, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
Global cooling global warming climate change climate health (that's what it's called now, right?)  in the context you mean is just not true. Notice that it has all the characteristics that rational liberals claim is the reason oil company research are not to be trusted:

-There is a lot of money behind it (billions and billions). The scientists would not be getting money if they said "yeah, everything is fine". But when an interest group with mere millions states that fracking is beneficial, it's the rich corporate interests who are controlling everything and just seeking their own personal gain.

-The solution for every problem is more government control (the scientists' employers). When an oil company suggests allowing offshore drilling is a solution, it is again, just rich corporate interests trying to rape the people for profit

-it is not independent. The government has a stake in the outcome of the research being a certain way.

And defenders always use terms like "scientific consensus" and "peer review", as if that meant anything.

Government science is not science anymore than oil company science is.

Even if climatologists were 100% right, they have no authority over what is best from a policy prospective. Notice all of their solutions involve giving up your freedom- tax, ban on products, the reduction of industrialism, etc.





No climate disaster prediction has ever come true, even with the lack of "action" from world governments. That should be evidence enough. Capitalist countires are much much more "green" than third world, non-industrial nations.
28  General Category / General Discussion / Why Libertarianism Will Win in the End on: March 12, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." -Max Planck

I see this as our approach as well. Neoconservatism is dying, and neoliberalism's basic incompetence will be its downfall. We have the future, so long as we keep educating like we are.

29  General Category / Lounge / Re: Pro Capitalism Documentaries? on: February 11, 2013, 05:28:42 PM
I found two:

The Pursuit of Happiness

Other People's Money

Happiness is a very touching movie showing how an unemployed man struggles to get his stockbrokers license.
Money show's a pretty cool point of view about investors, especially the speech near the end:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL7STmWZ1c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL7STmWZ1c</a>
Thanks State God! I'll definitely look into the Pursuit of Happyness. How Pro Capitalist is it? Or at least how not leftist is it?
30  General Category / Lounge / Re: Pro Capitalism Documentaries? on: February 11, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
Jesus, I've been looking for 2 hours, I would take a blatantly anarchist movie at this point. There are pretty much NO pro capitalist documentaries. wtf?

I'm thinking about maybe going with Nullification the movie. Not economics, but that's something, and it relates to history.

Seriously, I'm P.O'd about this. Is the current culture that bad? jeez.
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