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31  General Category / Lounge / Re: Things that anarchy has ruined for you on: December 09, 2012, 12:18:01 AM
Friends. All my friends are leftists (except a few neocons and one or two libertarians). Was walking down the road with a buddy yesterday and two Obama supporters walked down the road (going door to door), he saw their Obama '12 buttons and said "Obama, woohoo!" Made me cringe.
Almost all of my friends are either anarchist or anti-state, find some better friends.

How many friends you has mane?
About 7 or 8 depending on the weather
32  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Labor Struggle: A Free Market Model on: December 09, 2012, 12:11:03 AM
Victim77: Correction: It eliminates any way for a group of works to LEGALLY and non-violently put pressure on the employer.



Oh also this is directed toward everyone: How the hell am I supposed to add a strikethrough on a line of text? Because I was originally going to quote what victim77 said that wasn't previous quotes with a strike through in his last statement, and my correction as part of the quote, and then outside it say "There. Fixed it for you."

But I can't seem to get the strikethrough to work?

Thanks let me revise that.
33  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Labor Struggle: A Free Market Model on: December 05, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
Kevin Carson explains how the Wagner and Howard-Taft Acts and other government intrusion actually disadvantages unions and makes collective bargaining worthless By creating a Union bureaucracy that discourages "wild cat" strikes (spontaneous strikes without approval) and other ways of non-violently gaining leverage over employers.

Only fair, considering they are also special privileged by the government in that it takes so much to end even a single supposedly voluntary contract, that unions can force people to join the union against their will, and that often times replacing them with 'scabs' during a strike is illegal.  

I wonder victim77, if you even realize what effects such government restrictions have, both the ones you listed as well as mine, on the individual business and economy as a whole.  
I am simply proposing that in a free market the employer-employee relationship may be more equal than it is now. I believe that both of those privileges that the gov gives to unions that it approves of should obviously be dissolved. But, strikes nowadays can only be legal if approved by the official union and with notification to the employer. This creates a controlled environment in which replacing the workers with non union workers is not even necessary. This also eliminates any (legal) way for a group of workers to non-violently put pressure on the employer.

EDIT: Obviously it is in the employer's and union's best interest to use state violence to put down an illegal strike instead of having to increase his employee's salaries or in the union's case to lose political and economic power over the workplace. So the violence will indeed happen and the natural bargaining power of the unofficial strike will be lost.
34  General Category / General Discussion / Labor Struggle: A Free Market Model on: December 03, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
Great article, if you want good ammunition to argue with leftists you can just read the first 5 pages. For those who don't feel like reading, Kevin Carson explains how the Wagner and Howard-Taft Acts and other government intrusion actually disadvantages unions and makes collective bargaining worthless By creating a Union bureaucracy that discourages "wild cat" strikes (spontaneous strikes without approval) and other ways of non-violently gaining leverage over employers.

http://c4ss.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/C4SS-Labor.pdf   
35  General Category / General Discussion / Re: The next Ron Paul? on: November 28, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
SC represent.
36  General Category / Lounge / Re: Things that anarchy has ruined for you on: November 27, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
Friends. All my friends are leftists (except a few neocons and one or two libertarians). Was walking down the road with a buddy yesterday and two Obama supporters walked down the road (going door to door), he saw their Obama '12 buttons and said "Obama, woohoo!" Made me cringe.
Almost all of my friends are either anarchist or anti-state, find some better friends.
37  General Category / Lounge / Re: What sex are you? on: November 27, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
Sex? Yes please!
38  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Holy crap on: November 26, 2012, 05:02:53 PM
It there a test to determine whether what one thinks is actually THE silk road actually just a FBI/CIA honeypot?
I know a guy who used it. Sent it to another address to be safe. Some sellers may be piggies, but you can check on the forum for that.
39  General Category / General Discussion / Re: The National Anarchist Movement (NAM) on: November 21, 2012, 12:42:12 AM

Classic White Power logo in the middle. Fuck these guys.
40  Videos / Other Videos / L.I.N.U.X. on: November 15, 2012, 11:35:06 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXAnbBXuRdA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXAnbBXuRdA</a>
Linux anarchist punk FTW
41  General Category / General Discussion / Re: DA has some new competition on: November 14, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
"A more fruitful approach may be abolishing the state and allowing free markets to reign. Thus though it may seem counter-intuitive to some the fastest surest path to communism is to undo rigged markets and make them free markets."
Oh no, free market communists! The mortal enemy of free market capitalists!
42  General Category / General Discussion / Re: C4SS- I don't get it on: November 07, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
They are on the same side of ancaps. They are voluntarist, they just believe that top down corporate hierarchies are not as efficient in a free market than horizontally organized co-ops and the like. Please, do not dismiss them, we need to stick together. They do not advocate any more force than you and I do. That should be good enough for all ancaps.

Quote from: C4SS
We cannot speak of individual freedom and free communities, self-reliance and self-responsibility, while honoring the assembly line, promoting urban demolition, and making fetish of commodities. We cannot speak of honest work while honest working people are alienated from the work and treated as mere extensions of their machines.

We cannot speak of a sweet land of liberty when the very land is soured by greed of those who turn the landscape into real estate...

We canít predict the details of how free people will choose to organize provision of these services. The forms of such organization would be an open-ended matter, subject to free experimentation and resulting diversity.

  Basically, to put it crudely, an anarchist doesnít let a corporation or a syndicate or a commune tell them jack shit.  Things like property rights and debts and contracts will be much more nebulous than they are in a system where they are predefined by a strict centralized law code enforced by cops, but more tangible and solid than they are in a system where an elite group can willy-nilly revoke them at will.

They sound like ancoms, with a touch of the hippies.  As I have said before, I like the hippies.  The ancoms seem like trouble though, with their intent on destroying voluntary associations, agreements, contracts, property etc that take a form they do not approve of.  These guys seem like something in-between. 
Look up Kevin Carson and Gary Chartier. Also look at Rodrick Long's "reaching out to the left" video. It explains alot.
43  General Category / General Discussion / Re: C4SS- I don't get it on: November 07, 2012, 05:04:12 PM
Every time I have looked at it, it has been anti-capitalism.  

their definition of capitalism =/= your definition of capitalism. The one they use is the "historically correct" one that was commonly used in the 19th century, at least in the U.S. Most if not all of the people at C4SS are NOT opposed to free markets, but what they see as capitalism which in their minds, does NOT equal free market.

A free market wouldn't try to say what structure an organization can take.  That is why I have issues with them.  I don't mind if there are organizations how they want them.  To claim other voluntary structures are bad though... that is not free market.  

The "historically correct" view of capitalism also combined it with democracy.  If that is what they think ancap's are, they are not reading half the name.  They are not bothering to figure out what we mean. 
They are on the same side of ancaps. They are voluntarist, they just believe that top down corporate hierarchies are not as efficient in a free market than horizontally organized co-ops and the like. Please, do not dismiss them, we need to stick together. They do not advocate any more force than you and I do. That should be good enough for all ancaps.
44  General Category / General Discussion / Re: C4SS- I don't get it on: November 06, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
I love C4SS. A great perspective on free market anarchism.
45  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What will you do on Nov. 6th? on: October 24, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
I'll be stuck in school listening to bullshit propaganda about voting at school
Haahha right? I can't go 5 feet without seeing a poster that says "vote!!!". Although I did have some stickers to put on the posters so they said "VOTE-for nobody"
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