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1  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What happened here? Where did everybody go? on: November 12, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
Trying to apply anarchism to my daily life, trying to make a living outside of the financial system, trying to meet as many anarchists as possible to prepare for my ultimate plan. Keeps me busy.
2  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Assassination market coming to life on: November 18, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
My god! Our mighty government officials have bounties on their heads??? What's next, citizens applying self defense to the police? I don't know you guys, this whole anarchy thing is going a little too far.

EDIT: going spelunking in TOR for the first time in a while for ya seth
3  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Charting Politics on: November 17, 2013, 09:20:58 PM
1) George Washington probably 2 or 3 squares down from the top slightly to the right
Washington was historically authoritarian and was a huge federalist. He solidified federal rule when Pennsylvania tried to rebel.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
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2) Abraham Lincoln 3 squares below Washington maybe a couple to the left
Other than the painfully obvious reasons why he should be on the bottom, and ignoring the 450,000 American casualties he created, he also suppressed free speech and imprisoned political adversaries 
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/thomas-dilorenzo/cynical-and-hypocritical-abe/
Read:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006BMC1I?ie=UTF8&tag=lewrockwell&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B0006BMC1I
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3) Woodrow Wilson along the bottom edge of the centrist square
Open supporter of KKK, wartime facsist, created military industrial complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Industries_Board
4  General Category / General Discussion / Re: C4SS taken down on: September 25, 2013, 08:47:56 PM
It's obvious that some people on the DA board don't agree with C4SS all the time, but do remember that it is run in part by Rodrick T. Long, a senior scholar at the Mises institute. This needs to be spread to all liberty and anarchist sites around.
5  General Category / General Discussion / Re: C4SS taken down on: September 25, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
This is pure censorship. The worst part about it was that a man claiming to be part of Students for a Stateless Society was the one who did this. S4SS website posted facebook comments of 2 members of the Belgium Chapter that were extremely "Guns to kill all those sand-niggers and their servants...just like the animals they are."  racist and xenophobic to distance themselves from the Belgian Chapter of S4SS. Note that they didn't care what they called themselves because they actually adhered to their own principles.

Here's a gem from this guy:
 "Guns to kill all those sand-niggers and their servants...just like the animals they are."
6  General Category / General Discussion / Re: If An-Cap is econ. right then why do econ. left memes crop up in An-Cap circles? on: September 17, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
I think that it is likely that governments will sell "public" lands (including roads Smiley ) as their debts spiral out of control.  This can be be part of the basis for a smooth transition to a voluntary society. 
That actually sounds terrible. Who is going to get the best deal for this government property? Wal Mart, Goldman, Monsanto, Exxon, ect. We will have to move in to those lands immediately to prevent post government ripples in the market
7  General Category / General Discussion / Re: An additional reason why left-wing anarchism is bogus on: September 15, 2013, 07:43:41 PM
I really don't think their philosophy is worth a damn, to be honest. I used to think that their philosophy would compete with ours, but now I think their numbers are never really going to grow. They'll always be a whining minority.

 I remember you and others were skeptical of my perception, stating how we are so vastly outnumbered by these kooks, and that many of them are middle aged and eldery.

I'm glad that you're more optimistic now.  Smiley

They still vastly outnumber us, but I think we have the potential to really grow over the coming years. People are going to come to hate the state and they're going to be presented with a choice. Anarcho-communism and all of its flavors, or anarcho-capitalism. I think they'll choose anarcho-capitalism.

Anarcho-communism is the philosophy of poverty for all.
Come on now it's "voluntaryism". True capitalism has been stained by crony capitalism. Our PR department sent out a memo about this.
8  General Category / General Discussion / Re: An additional reason why left-wing anarchism is bogus on: September 15, 2013, 05:51:27 PM

I think the problem lies in that to go full scale, it needs to have a mechanism to enforce their view of equality of stuff/work.  That doesn't just happen naturally.  That doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for a small government type in the sense that we see it.
I would tend to disagree with that. I think that getting rid of the government and government sponsored corporations will do wonders for wealth inequality, social justice, and worker's rights.

I don't disagree with that, but that isn't where they stop. 
Are you talking about ancomms?
9  General Category / General Discussion / Re: An additional reason why left-wing anarchism is bogus on: September 15, 2013, 04:35:50 PM

I think the problem lies in that to go full scale, it needs to have a mechanism to enforce their view of equality of stuff/work.  That doesn't just happen naturally.  That doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for a small government type in the sense that we see it.
I would tend to disagree with that. I think that getting rid of the government and government sponsored corporations will do wonders for wealth inequality, social justice, and worker's rights.
10  General Category / General Discussion / Re: If An-Cap is econ. right then why do econ. left memes crop up in An-Cap circles? on: September 15, 2013, 11:20:45 AM
I am a mutualist-a free market "anti capitalist". The problem is that many on the left use a different definition of capitalism from ancaps an libertarians. Capitalism to them is the culmination of the state-corporate corruption and exploitation of the working classes, with union bashing, the inflation tax, regulations that crush competition, and privileges to corporations that create an extremely one sided power structure and control everyones lives (ex. intellectual property).
   
  I've been on this board for two years now, and even though I have crossed to the "dark side" I love reading this board because I think some of the best minds in the movement come here and DISAGREE about things. State Hater calls himself a "newby" to ancaps and I wholeheartedly support his conversion, but I wish he wouldn't be so divisionist. Ancaps have a varied view of many issues, just like anyone else. But just because Ancaps can't agree on everything, and Anarchists can't agree on everything, doesn't mean we should be disowning or disregarding their views (other than ancoms, because we all know they have no idea what they're talking about).

   To actually answer your question though, State Hater, I believe that anarchists of any stripe came to the philosophy by questioning everything that you thought was right. If the government, an institution that is so intertwined with our lives, is illegitimate, then what else do we take for granted in this society? What if the "traditional" property rights are wrong? What if IP is wrong? What if consumerism and materialism is killing us? If advertising poisons our minds? What if our entire way of life is illegitimate? If you asked everyone on this board, you'd get a different answer every time. And this is because there is nobody telling us what to think. Sure, people will try to influence us, like Stefan, Adam Kokesh, Kevin Carson, Lew Rockwell, David Freidman, SEK3, Rothbard, Spooner, Tucker, Kropotkin, Mises, Marx, Hayek, Keynes, and thousands more, but
the point is that nobody is going to have the same opinion, even in a small circle like this.
11  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Left Libertarian? on: September 12, 2013, 08:55:39 PM
Yes, yes...the shitstorm pleases me. In my opinion absentee ownership is hard to pin down. A government is basically the definition of absentee ownership. If you start from there, its not so hard to understand the argument against that. You can justify the gov owning all land for various (illogical) reasons (services, you sign a contract, ect.) but we all know that is bullshit. If you take it down to the renter/landlord level, it is the same thing.

I disagree.  I sit typing this in a rented apartment.  I rent partly for financial reasons and partly because I don't want to buy land in California, I don't think it's a good investment.  So I have voluntarily arranged to rent space from an absentee landlord I've never met, we deal with each other through a professional property management company, and everyone is essentially quite happy.  He's running a business, I'm voluntarily patronizing it, where is problem?
I'm not exactly saying that I agree 100% with the explanation I gave, I was simply trying to outline the argument. I'm still trying to figure it out. But I do believe that a renter should and would have a LOT more say in the property without the state involved.
12  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Left Libertarian? on: September 12, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Yes, yes...the shitstorm pleases me. In my opinion absentee ownership is hard to pin down. A government is basically the definition of absentee ownership. If you start from there, its not so hard to understand the argument against that. You can justify the gov owning all land for various (illogical) reasons (services, you sign a contract, ect.) but we all know that is bullshit. If you take it down to the renter/landlord level, it is the same thing.
13  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Left Libertarian? on: September 11, 2013, 10:15:52 PM
There is no consensus on property rights for Left Libertarians. Most do believe in private property but a sizeable amount does not believe in absentee ownership.
14  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Left Libertarian? on: September 11, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
So, i thought i knew what left libertarianism was, (dont like corporations) but i saw C4SS post a video about how to debate "right" libertarians, and in the comments people were discussing "local organizations" and "voluntary democracies" making decisions. This confused me, so i looked into some left lib websites, and one of them mentioned being "for property rights personally, but for communal ownership of the factors of production". Wtf? can someone explain to me what left libertarians believe, and how they handle property rights? thanks in advance.
Left libertarian encompasses a lot of political philosophies. This is from the website of SEK3's proposed Alliance of the Libertarian left:

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The Alliance of the Libertarian Left is a multi-tendency coalition of mutualists, agorists, voluntaryists,
geolibertarians, left-Rothbardians, green libertarians, dialectical anarchists, radical minarchists,
and others on the libertarian left, united by an opposition to statism and militarism, to cultural
intolerance (including sexism, racism, and homophobia), and to the prevailing corporatist capitalism
falsely called a free market; as well as by an emphasis on education, direct action, and building
alternative institutions, rather than on electoral politics, as our chief strategy for achieving liberation.
15  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Inalienable Rights on: September 03, 2013, 12:25:59 AM
Have you heard of the Vikings? Their culture was based around pillaging people. Your claim here is incorrect.
I disagree, in the vikings' heads i'm sure they justified it in some way or another, probably by dehumanizing their pillagees. There doesn't seem to be an entire culture that believes in killing for the sake of killing. Only a select few do, and they in turn twist a justification to their madness to create popular support. Terrorism, racism, xenophobia, you name it.
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