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1  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Are black markets the future??? on: May 05, 2012, 05:29:20 PM
I like the term voluntary markets, because that's what they are... Both parties agree, and only those in agreeance with the transaction are involved... No taxes, no government sales avenues to snatch your money and use it for evil... Volountary markets... I like that. Black markets sound kind of nasty... But I'll embrace the heart of the idea regardless of the name. I just find it to be non descriptive of what they are and probably a title given to them by the state.

Freedom without permission...
2  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Are black markets the future??? on: May 05, 2012, 05:20:14 PM
We need to let people know that black markets arnt just the future but need to be the present more importantly. Take the state out of the loop starting NOW. Freedom without permission...
3  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 04, 2012, 01:06:01 AM
Only time will tell Grin
4  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 03, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
It's very simple. Your voting at it's very core perpetuates the very system in which it can never change for the better. That validation and willing participation in an evil made up criminal organization is participation with all it does. Your playing along with a made up violent group and that makes you a partner in crime. Now the most blatant violation of the nap is putting your ruler over others who don't want one at all or that one. You say it creates LESS aggression but I say it is aggression. Your hiring my slave master. Thanks! I don't want a slave master and you say you don't either, so why pick one. It's aggression my friend. I hit this wall too. Let completely go of the state. I promise you it's better. You'll know it's right. You can't fully embrace anarchism while your hands are still full of the state. 
5  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 03, 2012, 02:00:54 AM
If you want to violate the nap... You can do it all you'd like. Your vote is aggression, it dosnt mitigate it.
6  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 02, 2012, 04:37:36 AM
But aren't you violating the philosophy of liberty and the NAP by voting your leader onto another that dosnt accept their authority? That's un wanted force. I don't want Ron paul and neither does the Obama supporter. Your violating the anarchist and the socialist all in one! Go you
7  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 02, 2012, 03:32:38 AM
It's hard to take anything you say seriously with Ron Paul staring me in the face from your banner, but I see where your coming from. I obviously disagree but I see why you would think that none the less. Do you believe in the philosophy of liberty?
8  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Those Darn Anarchists on: May 02, 2012, 02:52:08 AM
just posted it on facebook. Ive been off the book for months now, but it seems anarchism needs its logical thinkers and peaceful expamles now more than ever. Back to beating my head against the wall i guess.
9  General Category / General Discussion / Those Darn Anarchists on: May 02, 2012, 02:40:44 AM
Those Darn Anarchists!

   I have been quiet for some time nowÖ Well, thatís all over with! Given the recent actions of a few mislead people in Ohio, who share some political identity with myself, I have decided to come out of  vacation and back into activism. You see, Iím also an anarchist, a market anarchist to be exact. Mind you, it wasnít an easy thing saying that for the first time, but thatís what I am. It goes against everything I was taught growing up; in my home, in my church, in my school, in baseball stadiums, on the news, in my textbooks, and as far back as I can remember. You see, I was raised believing in the ďamerican dreamĒ and the government that supported it. I was raised to believe that we are the best country in the world, the strongest, the most powerful but most moral, and the list goes on. Long story short, I accepted this dream like all the others around me accepted this dream. Two or more years ago I began to wake up from that dream, and once I did my life was never the same again.
   I was and currently am in the food industry. Food and eco-systems that create and support it are my passion and calling in this world. As I was losing my first big attempt at making it in the food industry, I began to come across legislation that was surely not in the peopleís best interest. I began to recognize this pattern across the board. This led me to study our history and eventually our constitution. This is where major life change began to happen, and I knew that the information I held REQUIRED a life change along with it. I saw that my entire history was full of blood at the hands of my government. Not only were we responsible for brutally taking the land we so proudly call ours; killing and enslaving the entire way, we quickly got into peoples affairs with a selfish and bloody vengeance. The seventh calvary of the united states army slaughtered 300 helpless men, women, and children at Wounded Knee in 1890. Only nine years later the united states government killed 200,000 men, women, and children civilians in the Philippines. We did this for a better location to exploit China, as well as the islands being a profitable part of the old spanish empire. Around sixty years later we drop an atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing hundreds and thousands of men, women, and children civilians and leaving years of cancer and other illnesses directly related to the nuclear fallout. The excuse for this action was surely a calculated move to scare the soviets and rise to the top of the power chain in the world. Then we have Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, and Laos. These I suggest you take a look at for yourself. There are plenty of soldiers and politicians that have told the truth about the millions of lives lost in those bloody pictures of american history. Regardless what you believe about why we are fighting in the places we are today, I strongly believe that we will look back on the ďwarsĒ of today much like we do the bloodshed from our pastÖwith shame. (More locations of direct united states military involved murder include but sadly arenít limited too; Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Russia, France, Germany, Thailand, Indonesia, Panama, Grenada, Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bosnia, and YugoslaviaÖ Plenty of info on all of these as well)
Our government also incorporates another little trick to try and keep the blood directly off their hands, and it includes propping up dictators who maintain control in extremely immoral ways or sponsor terror for the benefit of few in our government. Some examples of these fruitful american tax payer funded dictators are stunning and should get your heart pumping. Some of the people who accepted money from the united states government to ultimately use as they wished or received weapons and others such things to control people in some way areÖ the Shah, Saddam Hussein, Ayub Khan, Yayha Khan, Musharraf, Suharto, Osama Bin Laden, Joseph Stalin, Augusto Pinochet, Idi Amin, Castro, Quaddafi, Kim Jong Il, Robart Mugabe, and the list goes on and on. Mind you, you can put any one of these names in a google search and get a list of sickening actions commited on their part, most made possible by american tax dollars. These actions continue to take place at this very moment and there is no end in sight.
I do not support or take part in theft, torture, and murder in this country and I will not willingly take part in another country. But as a taxpayer, YES, my money goes to steal, murder, and torture. This is why I have chosen to opt out of all government interaction that isnít forced by use of violenceÖlike taxes and obedience to laws that violate my rights. I disagree with taxes for many reasons starting with the fact I think itís stealing right on down to how and what they are used for. I choose to live by what we anarchists call the NAP, or the non-aggression principle. This means that I believe that I have a right to my life, liberty, and property and you have a right to yours. I have a right to defend my life, liberty, and property and so do you. Violating someoneís life is pretty self explanatory. Thatís when you take part in the murder of another. Violating someoneís liberty is when you take their freedom away or when you enslave them. And violating someoneís property is when you steal from them. Iím of the impression that I can in no way willingly support my government and not support the violations of another personís life, liberty, and property at the same time. It is un-debatable that our government is in the business of bloodshed and it cares little about what the people think about it. I no longer respect the government of this or any country due to the willing participation in so many horrific events on all people from the beginning of our history to the present day. There is no moral way to control people through government and I think itís long since been time that stop trying, and move towards a voluntary society based on choice and contract instead of force. Force creates resistance and its no way to organize peopleÖMaybe animals, but not people. People are capable of so much more good in this world. All Iíve ever seen on behalf of any government is not only evil and immoral but holds back to the initiative and creativity of its very own people. The government operates at the expense of people, not for the benefit of them. Think about itÖ Everything the government has is because of you. They have nothing of their own, except what they can take from you and others.
 I am a proud anarchist. I donít willingly take from anyone anymore. I donít desire that force be used on anyone at all. I donít pretend that this or any government has my best interests at heart whatsoever because they donít. Anything that the government does, private industry can do better with MORE oversight directly from the people. Study the free market and REAL capitalism. Donít let the actions of a few men who made a terrible decision give you a false idea of what it means to be an anarchist. Violence is the opposite of the heart of anarchism. Freedom comes with some major consequences, most are good and some are scary, but nothing is as scary as what we have now. We have a group of people who claim ultimate power and control of your entire life for no apparent reason and with no oversight. I donít need a babysitter and neither do you. They do have the guns though, and they WILL use them as history has shownÖ So here it is. The questions Iíve been dying to ask. Will you open your mind to an honest look into libertarian thought? Will you put aside your preconceived notions of black hooded bandits and bridge bombers? Will you take an honest look at the reality of government, regardless of what you begin to find? Will you ignore the above info and continue a partnership with a bloody government despite all the dysfunction and evil found in them? Will you honor the lives of those lost by turning your back on those that took them? Will you vow to do what the generations before us failed to do, and make a change for our children and theirs? Itís their future that is the most at stake and the same old changes are going to get us in the same old mess. Donít put anarchists into the same old box and close your mind to a truly good and moral stance. You only have education and understanding to gain and itís a truly important time for change in our society. Itís up to you and no one else. Thank you for taking the time to hear out the anarchist. And please keep your heart open to change, because we sure need some kind of it.


ÖThe ultimate and only AUTHORITY of this world is its AUTHORÖ   
   
10  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What's "acceptable" When it comes to state/anarchist interactions? on: April 30, 2012, 12:00:11 PM
Distruzio... I like your sentiment at the moment. I pay taxes as well, being a father and husband that wants to be around for my family. I know I'm left with few viable options when it comes to taxes and very few others... Can't think of many more actually. And yes my goal is to develop a farm that produces food people can buy, trade, or volunteer thier services in exchange for. My visions that of free market anarchists taking a proactive approach within the market to bring down the state. If aal of us who believed in the market as we do just started getting involved with peoples needs and wants through the market we could be so much more influential while holding our values at the forefront instead of always playing so defensively to the state. We need a viable offense so that the people can see the positives of a truly free market and A truly free people. And this needs to start and grow immensely without government permission. Private roads, private education, private mailing, private storage and vault systems free of government regulation. The options are endless and our minds are the most primed for this challenge than any others.   
11  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What's "acceptable" When it comes to state/anarchist interactions? on: April 30, 2012, 01:31:19 AM
I meant this to be about so much more than voting...  There is a voting post that would be better for much of the replies I'm getting. I'm talking about accepting stolen property AND this so called right to take from government because they take from others. Voting isn't even on my radar for acceptable moral behavior...for people OR causes. But Im taking on the idea that it's ok to benefit from things that are violently stolen. Is it ok to pay taxes. Is it ok to take grants? Is it ok to take welfare? Is it ok to work for the government? What do people think about these things? Yes, even things we are "forced" to do. Taxes, obedience to laws, police cooperation, and the many others. Now i pay taxes too, but feel the proper direction for change means I should be trying not to. Cut the money off to our pimps and see what happens... Nevermind taking it! 
12  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What's "acceptable" When it comes to state/anarchist interactions? on: April 29, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
My politicians never have presented a vote of that kind to my knowledge before... I see your point there on how no violence is committed by you to violate another in that one voting situation... Good job on that... But your participation still seems very wrong to me. I could point to those  many liitle things like validation of the system, begging for what's yours, it's unforced government interaction with sure consequences,  and those other little nit picking purist thoughts but you've heard all those. And if you truly just stick to that one voting situation then you are less guilty of violence than others and hopefully you don't have to beg for no reason soon enough... The real heart of this post was not meant to be about voting at all, but benifitting from stolen money by one who recognizes it as stolen. Things like grants, prevailing wage, welfare, and other things we are not forced into like taxes and laws ; ie. Things enforced by regulators. My thoughts are against taking these things. But I feel my philosophy should outweigh even those things enforced by regulators at times. This I'd the real struggle in my eyes. I know I shouldn't take things I'm not forced too... For me this is truth, you can take it or leave it but I will live that way... But I feel that I see the reality of our government for what i truly is...evil and hateful. I choose to partner with them on taxes and many laws I disagree with because I my value for freedom is higher than my value of consistency in these certain areas. Those areas are places in which I partner with the state, by my actions alone, but partner none the less. That sickens me as an a human, nevermind a thinking anarchist. I know my taxes go to kill and torture. I know my taxes go to enslave AND weaken people, I know this! But i choose to partner with government there. Don't fool yourselves to not think that any participation as the state desires within it's own system IS partnering with the state and IMplicates you as well. You should at least call it what it is and see it for what it is regardless of force or not. Because regardless of whether we are forced or not the implications and effects of our participation are still real and happening and one day our values of consistency must out weigh that fear being uncomfortable to make the drastic changes needed for the society that we desire... A free and volountary society   
13  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What's "acceptable" When it comes to state/anarchist interactions? on: April 29, 2012, 11:20:44 AM
How can anyone vote without pursuing their own special interestst at the expense of another? There is the real rub my friend. It's impossible to not violate anothers interest at the expense of your own...seems simple to me.
14  General Category / General Discussion / Re: What's "acceptable" When it comes to state/anarchist interactions? on: April 29, 2012, 11:18:33 AM
1. There is nothing inherently wrong with "defensive" voting. So long as you are not voting to benefit one special interest, whatever that interest may be, at the expense of another, you are not violating anarchist principles by participating in the franchise at the most local level. Representative and non-direct democratic parliamentarian institutions are the most inescapably vile. If you feel compelled to participate in democracy, do it where your vote actually matters - in your neighborhood or town.

A city-wide election is a lesser evil compared to a federal election, which is, by its very nature, completely corrupt and expropriatory of individuals. I cannot EVER participate in a federal election b/c democracy violates both my religious and my political ethics.

2. You are not liable for use of roads, protection from the police or other emergency services provided by the public sector, public education, nor positive law as you NEVER contracted those services. Your consent was assumed and never confirmed. Therefore, you are not morally obligated to recognize taxation as anything more than extortion at best. Never let the statist reprobate offer reproach to you who stand and point your finger at acts deserving shame rather than following his stead by kneeling and accepting a mouth full of the same.

3. I personally recognize the mafia and other "criminal" gangs as MORE legitimate than the State since they do not dare pretend they do me a service with their depredations. They benefit themselves at my expense honestly. The State and its lickspittles are not so gentlemanly. Therefore I struggle NOT to laud and, otherwise, encourage the anti-state activities of such organizations even when they violate the property rights of private citizens, subject as they are, to a free market in governing forces. Theirs is a monopoly law of tradition and convenience that waxes and wanes with the times due to market forces they NEVER pretend to control nor penalize for expression. Moreover, their monopoly is in competition with one another and, finding myself displeased with my oppressor, I can switch between families and clans without leaving my home.

15  Questions And Challenges / Questions About Anarcho-Capitalism / Re: Is Anarcho-Capitalism Incompatible With Christianity? on: April 28, 2012, 12:55:31 PM
Just found this little doozy! I need to take time for my response and I know I dropped the ball on this one seth but I promise you the works coming your way will make up for my procrastination. This is a great topic and one that needs addressing by those who are Biblically sound.
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