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61  Questions And Challenges / Challenges To Anarcho-Capitalism / Re: A World without money on: July 15, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
Ok, from the top,....

McDonalds knows pretty accurately how many burgers to make, you think that Wallyworld doesn't know how much to stock and where.  Behavioral predictive technologies are well developed.  But the question will be moot because you will make your order from home and probably have it delivered.  All those accountants and lawyers are gonna need something to do and I think delivery guy would be a great way to meet people.

How can you make a blanket statement that distributors don't decide what to put on the shelves when I just stated that under my system distributors will do exactly that?  They pretty much do it today, why can't you get certain things anywhere but wallyworld, because the distributors made deals to only deal through them.  The concept of company will go away with the absence of profit.

Ah, scarcity.  So, if you understand fiat currencies and fractional reserve central banking, then you know that scarcity is created by design to enhance the priviledges of the wealthy.  Scarcity is manufactured by evil people that want to use people as their herd of cattle.  You said you understood this stuff,....

Freeloaders will be dealt with buy shame, not many folks gonna want to get shamed out of paradise.  However, since we been slaving under cruel masters for all of our lives if we free the totality of posterity from coercive authority I think we got a little break coming, and that our children will be happy to see us take it easy because they know that the system they got now will not reward the few at the expense of the many.  If you have read Kropotkin then you are aware that the bar seems to be set at working from the age of 20 to 45, maybe 30 hours a week, and after 45 you will have whatever you need to advance your studies at your disposal.  There is no money, everything that you want is free.  If you want to go to Malaysia and help make big screens for everybody, or maybe you want to go to Vietnam and help set up sustainable farm to fuel to generator electric system so that they can have a big screen then that is what you do, and everything from the clothes that you wear to the plane that you will fly in will all be free.  We work, we eat.  All a matter of good organizational skills.    Not organized to make one guy really rich, but to make everybody rich.

If you don't like a system like that you got to be the ignorant one in this conversation. 

Stop saving your crumbs from the rich man's table and turn over the table.  You are never gonna be free from your slavery until you stand up and make their enslavement of you more expensive than they can afford.

Start with your mind, you are on the path, just keep going and you will catch up with the vanguard,....

Don't worry about being hard on me I got a short attention span and you would have to push pretty hard to get through the haze that I see the world through.  Spicolli rules! Cool

I'm with you Dis, I will not have to use force to get folks to join my utopia, they will see the benefits when I get through the mind control training that school and tv have put into them.  Who doesn't want free stuff for working less than 40 hours a week?
62  Questions And Challenges / Challenges To Anarcho-Capitalism / Re: A World without money on: July 14, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
Well, thank you all for your input.

Take a few minutes to think about what I said.

If we all go to work tommorrow, just like we did today, the stores will continue to be full.

We will need a few extra people to make up for the added demand, but we got plenty of people unemployed.

Now why I would want to continue under a monetary system that gives me IOU's to the Rothschild's bank as a means of trading my labor for yours is just stupid, the only people asking this do not understand the nature of the fiat currency system of central banking.

So, D, I'm glad I scored high on your scoresheet, I try harder than most,....

Who decides what to put on the shelves are the same people that decided today, if you work at the worldwide distribution centers just keep distributing and we'll keep producing and everybody eats.  As things become available for distribution then distribute them.  Distribution is, after all, the line of work you have chosen.

Who decides what you really need is you, want something not at the distribution center then look up where it is made and go get/make you one.

I'll admit that there will be some freeloading, but better to carry a few shameless freeloaders than to enslave everybody else, and if you trade your labor for paper notes then you are a slave to the man printing the paper, he trades his paper for your life's work, who do you think gets a better deal, you who have no power to print money, or the guy with an unlimited supply of paper and a press.  Honestly, when I can trade pieces of paper for your life why wouldn't I print me up a good profit at the same time?

So, aside from some misunderstandings in the change over that can be easily remedied, everybody works and everybody gets a big screen tv, but nobody gets to be a billionaire. 

Who is gonna be mad about this revolution in the social status of the people, just the people that live without working.

Al, you obviously don't know the history of my liver, but if you think you can take it, and my neighbors don't object to your aggression, then feel free to knock on the door and take by force what you need, but I got to guess that my neighbors are gonna be mad about you controlling me by violence because they understand that controlling me by violence is the first step in controlling them next and they don't want to be your slave.

So, other than that very few people are capable of accepting this idea because they are trapped in repeating their past, 'but this is the way it's always been', what other objections you got?

I'm short on time today, I'll be back,....
63  Questions And Challenges / Challenges To Anarcho-Capitalism / A World without money on: July 11, 2013, 04:46:47 PM
If everybody goes to work tommorrow we can loot the stores today and replace what we needed tommorrow.

As long as everybody working today continues to go to work, with maybe a few unemployed people tommorrow to help with the big rush, we keep the stores full and the only people that get mad are the ones that control us with their access to money.

We don't need money, rich people need money, what we need is work, and access to 100% of it's products, we can get that by keeping the shelves stocked and taking only what we really need.

For those of you that have come in late, please feel free to join in at the end and state your mind.
64  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 08, 2011, 11:48:58 PM
Good one, Despicable,....

JSNTS, that was an interesting link, thanks.

65  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 08, 2011, 01:01:08 AM
Thank you for recognizing, unless you can show a prior example, I will take credit.

I thought it up in Sep. 2000, and have had it on the web since 2004.

Perhaps you have an earlier example you can point towards, I'm sure that I can't be the only one that has thought of it in history, but I'm not all that well read.

I will give credit to Bakunin, Hubbard, Rand, and a host of scifi writers of the 80's for putting me on the track of it, but I am not aware of a philosopher that comes even close to world peace in 20 words or less.
66  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 07, 2011, 04:45:06 PM
Here's one I like to use, it gets most of the religious dupes to thinking for themselves,... and that is a step in the right direction.

Have you been to church?
Did the church you went to send men with guns to round you up?
So,  you went of your own free will?
When you got to church did thugs shake you down for money?
So, you were free to give or not give as you determined best for you?
So, if god gets your time or your money it is a voluntary contribution on your part?
God doesn't hire thugs to make you sing in the choir?

So, if somebody is taking your time and money by force, and we've shown god doesn't do that, they must work for satan.

Satan forces people to do things they don't want to do.

So, cops ARE satan.

My axiom is too simple for most people, they can't bring themselves to think that it is that easy, but if world peace were to break out by accident, they would follow this one rule, they would have to or world peace couldn't exist.

Most people suffer from NIH syndrome, Not Invented Here.

So, I don't get discouraged, I know sound logic when I see it.

Despicable has used the most common retort I've come across.  I get it every time I post on a new board. 

And, he is right.

It is wrong to control people by force, even when they are forcing you to do things you don't want to do, but I'd rather face what comes next knowing that I wasn't anybody's bitch/slave on the way out.  It is better to avoid the situation all together, to arrange your life in such a manner that situations such as these don't occur.  But, the people that use force to control others count on the controlled lining up to drink the koolaid.  If they actually had to face an opponent that resisted they would soon exhaust their resources.

My axiom is sound, just because others can't understand it's simplicity on the first hearing doesn't negate it's logic.
67  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 06, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
OK, I hope I can only do this this one time,...

If you use violence to control me, YOU have violated the axiom. 

What redress I seek for your violation of the rule is subject to my whim.

If nobody controls another through violence, conflict is not possible, everybody does only what they want.

It can be interpreted that you would be forcing some one to do something they didn't want to do if you stopped them from raping you, but their behavior is predicated on violating the one rule that we all(mostly) agree on, that it is wrong to force people to do things they don't want to do.

So, if there are to be rules, the simplest is mine. 

Violation of this rule subjects the violator to the retribution of the victim.

Will this degrade into chaos? 

Yes, quickly, but after a short period all those that would violate this axiom would be eliminated(along with a number of innocents) and all that would be left would be those that want to follow this rule and do their own thing.

My goal in establishing this axiom is to eliminate conflict.

Since the average intellect in the world is pretty low, the simplest reasoning is necessitated.

This axiom can be fully understood by even the most aberrated individuals.

It is the more intelligent that always want to overthink these things.

I realize that it's 'fun' to pick apart other people's ideas, and rewarding to  prove one's superiority by monkeywrenching, but please take this one at face value, it doesn't get much simpler than this.

Do you want to live in a world where the man with the biggest/most powerful gang rapes and robs you, like the tsa and the republicrats do today, or do you want to live in a world where you are free to do as you please, and ALL the people around you want to see you do well in life?

All you have to do is spread this axiom around and that is the inevitable result.

68  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 06, 2011, 10:23:49 PM

Please elaborate on these exceptions, as I see none.
69  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 05, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
Now that is what I'm talking about, except the little twit didn't get enough, I want to know which one got into trouble with the 'authorities'?
70  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 05, 2011, 01:36:27 AM
It is wrong for him to control you by force, what you do in response to his wrong doing is totally up to you.
71  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: April 05, 2011, 01:04:11 AM
Then he would have violated the axiom and the world is your's to rule as you see fit. 

Buddhist would forgive him, and seek to understand why he continues to hit you in the face, Billy the Kid would shoot him where he stands, you have to decide for you what is an appropriate response.
72  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Cash Cards provide anonymity. on: April 01, 2011, 09:00:20 PM
If you want to keep ready credits that look like detritus and come in $450 denominations.

I also see it as a bank account with no fees.

I think they will trade at par for some time, if you activate the card you may still get ten dollars added to your balance.  That's what happened when I activated one other card.  It took over an hour to finally get to the end of the spiel only to tell the guy I just wanted a cash card, and he did it.  He activated it with my privacy intact.
I then went into where I was going and paid for an ID that has a rfid chip in it, they gave me a sleeve to keep it in. Sad
73  General Category / General Discussion / Cash Cards provide anonymity. on: April 01, 2011, 01:24:03 AM
If you go to walmart and purchase their cash cards they staple the
 receipt to the card, if you leave this intact you can later return the
 card for your money back, this would serve as cash if you gave it to
 your business partner. If you activate the card you have to give your
 mother's maiden name to open a bank account with them complete with a
 monthly service charge, but if you just circulate it with the receipt
 you work anonymously.

 I just thought you might like to spread that around some.

74  General Category / General Discussion / Re: World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: March 24, 2011, 08:30:14 PM
Quantitatively most tyranny is at home!
They will tolerate your tyranny only so long, however, they will tolerate it longer if you send them to an obedience school that teaches them ANYTHING except how to put food on the table, or how to act while eating it.

Freedom, even for those not tall enough to effectively resist!

                                                              No, you don't know best for somebody else.
Can you predict the butterfly effect?

If you can't see the entire picture of someone else's life, how can you judge what outcome will ensue?

Better to leave someone else's choices to them, they will have to live, or die, with them.
75  General Category / General Discussion / World Peace in 20 Words or Less! on: March 24, 2011, 02:37:53 PM
Wouldn't you like to know that world peace is one simple axiom away?

Well, it is!

It's wrong to force a person to do ANYTHING that that person doesn't want to do.

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