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Title: Obamacare
Post by: Syock on October 05, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2013/10/obamacare-reality-shock-sets-in-facebook-posts-reveals-the-true-horrors-of-obamacare-2456936.html

Seems the costs are a bit more than what the supporters expected.  I wonder if this will cause any cognitive dissonance for them. 


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: Victor on October 05, 2013, 07:52:50 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2013/10/obamacare-reality-shock-sets-in-facebook-posts-reveals-the-true-horrors-of-obamacare-2456936.html

Seems the costs are a bit more than what the supporters expected.  I wonder if this will cause any cognitive dissonance for them. 

No.

That's my hypothesis. Cognitive dissonance would require some degree of rationality. I don't think the Obama supporters I've seen would accept that there is anything remotely bad about Obamacare what-so-ever, no matter what they saw.

(Sorry, I've been arguing with "liberals" recently and my frustration levels are still quite high. So I'm feeling lots of negativity.)

(But yeah, you're giving them too much credit.)


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: RJ Miller on October 10, 2013, 09:51:38 PM
On the issue of why healthcare has become more expensive over the last few decades and why Obamacare simply exacerbates it, this article (complete with excellent graphs) is a great overview: http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/ (http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/)

In a nutshell, we haven't had a free market in healthcare for quite a while now, and the third-party payment system we have now succumbed to over the years isn't helping one bit.


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: Syock on October 10, 2013, 10:41:51 PM
On the issue of why healthcare has become more expensive over the last few decades and why Obamacare simply exacerbates it, this article (complete with excellent graphs) is a great overview: http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/ (http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/)

In a nutshell, we haven't had a free market in healthcare for quite a while now, and the third-party payment system we have now succumbed to over the years isn't helping one bit.

Yeah, that wasn't in question.  I just found it humorous that supporters of it didn't see it coming. 


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: RJ Miller on October 11, 2013, 12:47:42 AM
Yeah, that wasn't in question.  I just found it humorous that supporters of it didn't see it coming. 

Part of why they didn't see it coming is because they seem to ignore *why* costs have been rising all this time. If they knew the true history of healthcare programs and regulations in the US, the sticker price of the (un)Affordable Care Act would've been less of a shocker.

But I can't say I feel too bad about anyone who supported the law and now has higher costs to pay.

Glad not too many young people are signing up for this bullshit.


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: Victor on October 16, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
On the issue of why healthcare has become more expensive over the last few decades and why Obamacare simply exacerbates it, this article (complete with excellent graphs) is a great overview: http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/ (http://thefederalist.com/2013/10/01/8-charts-that-explain-the-explosive-growth-of-u-s-health-care-costs/)

In a nutshell, we haven't had a free market in healthcare for quite a while now, and the third-party payment system we have now succumbed to over the years isn't helping one bit.

I'm not sure if it's because I'm using TorBrowser or what, but I only see 7 charts on that page. :P :/ (Whereas the title says there are 8 charts.)


Title: Re: Obamacare
Post by: JustSayNoToStatism on November 16, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
The Obamacare website is the result of typical cronyism.