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Title: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 11:50:00 AM
There are a few ways to break down personality types.  I noticed on personality sites that a good portion of a particular personality type in MBTI tended toward anarchy and ancap.  Other types grouped in other political philosophies.  I think knowing this could also help with focusing activism, as it won't do much good if a bunch of introverts are trying to go out and shake hands with random people.  

There are a lot of tests out there.  You may come out with slightly different results on different tests, and different days.  You might have better luck reading some descriptions once narrowed down to see if they apply.  

https://www.google.com/search?q=mbti+test (https://www.google.com/search?q=mbti+test)


Edit:  Hey all you lurkers out there.  Yeah, you.  I know you're there. (http://dailyanarchist.com/forum/index.php?action=who)  I bet your the same type as those posting here.  Feel free to get in here and vote.  You don't have to post a response if you don't want to.  You can keep being a lurker.  Thank you for helping out if you join in the survey.  


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Seth King on January 17, 2012, 02:42:47 PM
Can you link directly to the site that will explain what those are and give us the test?


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 17, 2012, 02:49:58 PM
A test that got the right type for me: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

A site that does a good job describing the various types: https://www.personalitypage.com/html/portraits.html


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 05:21:13 PM
That second link gave me a warning page.  

Edit:
Can you link directly to the site that will explain what those are and give us the test?

It is a big topic if you dig into the entire thing.   
http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html

That will give you a very simple, but kind of inaccurate answer to the differences and what category you fall into.  Not everyone falls cleanly into a category, where the longer tests can give a more accurate answer to a percentage of preference. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: dpalme on January 17, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
It didn't warn me about anything.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 05:34:06 PM
I don't get the warning without the "https" 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 17, 2012, 10:10:59 PM
That second link gave me a warning page.

Hmm, that's weird I never get any warnings. I really like the profiles it gives, mine (INTP) is spot on. Like really I could have wrote it.

I think this is an important thing to consider when we talk with other people about anarchism. For us NT's realizing that logical consistency isn't all that important to a lot of people can be hard to understand. But its true some people just dont care about theories and only care about reality, the how not the why. Others are more concerned about the emotional impact of everything, how a given idea makes people feel.

Obviously we can't know what everyone's personality type is before we talk to them, but you can usually pick up the big differences after a few minutes of conversation. If the logical argument isnt working on someone maybe it's time to try a different style of argument. And even if you can't, just understanding that the other personalities exist is helpful.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 10:23:53 PM
I really like the profiles it gives, mine (INTP) is spot on. Like really I could have wrote it.

When I read the INTJ descriptions years ago, it was a very weird feeling.  It seemed to me like someone had been spying on me, and then ripped out my thoughts and put them online. 


The distribution of types so far is falling into place exactly where I expected it to. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: AgoristTeen1994 on January 17, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
I really like the profiles it gives, mine (INTP) is spot on. Like really I could have wrote it.

When I read the INTJ descriptions years ago, it was a very weird feeling.  It seemed to me like someone had been spying on me, and then ripped out my thoughts and put them online. 


The distribution of types so far is falling into place exactly where I expected it to. 

I definitely understand that I took the test several months ago and here were my results

INTJ
I = 89%
N = 84%
T = 89%
J = 79%


But I definitely agree that the NT's particularly the Introverted NT's are more inclined toward libertarianism and anarchism, though I have come across NT's who were neither and in fact I came across an INTJ who was a straight out socialist and another who was authoritarian....out of a sense of self-preservation in the latter case. :P And I've come across libertarians and anarchists of other types as well. Hell, I have a friend who I am positive is an SJ, and he's a libertarian when most SJ's are conservative/neoconservative. So the MBTI isn't a perfect indicator of political ideology, though it is admittedly, a very good one.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 17, 2012, 10:52:01 PM
Certainly MBTI has nothing to do with political philosophy. It's just that some personalities will tend to like structure more or prefer to have others make decisions for them. On the other hand, read this bit from Wikipedia on INTP's:

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They also tend to be impatient with the bureaucracy, rigid hierarchies, and the politics prevalent in many professions. INTPs have little regard for titles and badges, which they often consider to be unjustified. INTPs usually come to distrust authority as hindering the uptake of novel ideas and the search for knowledge.

INT*s are probably just more naturally drawn to libertarianism, than others.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 10:55:25 PM
But I definitely agree that the NT's particularly the Introverted NT's are more inclined toward libertarianism and anarchism, though I have come across NT's who were neither and in fact I came across an INTJ who was a straight out socialist and another who was authoritarian....out of a sense of self-preservation in the latter case. :P And I've come across libertarians and anarchists of other types as well. Hell, I have a friend who I am positive is an SJ, and he's a libertarian when most SJ's are conservative/neoconservative. So the MBTI isn't a perfect indicator of political ideology, though it is admittedly, a very good one.

I use to participate on a typology forum.  I found about 50% of INTJ were libertarian/anarchist, about 25% were socialist, about 25% were statist (because they found it useful to protect their own income).  While that seems kind of insignificant in a way, it really isn't when you consider that the other types thought I was just insane.  50% is remarkably high for a philosophy that has a very small following.  

Certainly MBTI has nothing to do with political philosophy.

It certainly was not designed with that in mind.  By its nature of categorizing people into similar groups through how they think it makes sense that politics would follow it at least somewhat. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 17, 2012, 11:37:54 PM
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It certainly was not designed with that in mind.  By its nature of categorizing people into similar groups through how they think it makes sense that politics would follow it at least somewhat.

Yeah I agree, what I meant was that just because someone is an ESFJ doesn't mean they can't become an anarchist. And also that the reasons they would become anarchists would probably be completely different than what did it for me.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 17, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
I agree, I doubt others would get here the same way we did.  I sure hope we get a variety of types.  It would only serve to strengthen us.  We can use this to help target our message to other personality types, that will be attracted by different types of arguments. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: braindead0 on January 19, 2012, 08:22:33 AM
work had us do it, I chose the middle selection on everything.  These kind of things are no better than astrological signs.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 19, 2012, 08:39:29 AM
work had us do it, I chose the middle selection on everything.  These kind of things are no better than astrological signs.

If there is a middle selection it was written by a novice.  I would say it is better than astrology because it asks you how you think, rather than tells you.  It isn't trying to guess, it simply categorizes existing preferences. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: braindead0 on January 19, 2012, 09:46:18 AM
work had us do it, I chose the middle selection on everything.  These kind of things are no better than astrological signs.

If there is a middle selection it was written by a novice.  I would say it is better than astrology because it asks you how you think, rather than tells you.  It isn't trying to guess, it simply categorizes existing preferences. 
The company that our company used 'seemed' legit.. If I recall the questions had radio buttons calling for selecting how much you agree or disagree with a statement or the like,  and I just selected the middle. 

Snake oil as far as I'm concerned, and a lot of researchers agree.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on January 19, 2012, 09:52:14 AM
Snake oil as far as I'm concerned, and a lot of researchers agree.

If you consider it snake oil or not, there is still an interesting trend here.  70% INTJ, vs what is found in the general population of about 3%. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: JustSayNoToStatism on January 19, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
This is better than astrology for sure. Mine was pretty damn accurate. I checked out other "types" just to make sure it wasn't one of those tricks where it ALWAYS sounds like you. Not the case. My personality type description fit me pretty well.

I tend to be skeptical of those tests where you have to choose strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree. People are not good at trying to "measure" how strong their attitudes are towards a lot of things. I always find myself thinking..."Hmm...sometimes I agree, sometimes I disagree strongly. Should I average these?...or consider what I think is the most likely scenario they are trying to get at?"

The test I took for this was only Yes/No.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 20, 2012, 12:17:12 AM
This is better than astrology for sure. Mine was pretty damn accurate. I checked out other "types" just to make sure it wasn't one of those tricks where it ALWAYS sounds like you. Not the case. My personality type description fit me pretty well.

I tend to be skeptical of those tests where you have to choose strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree. People are not good at trying to "measure" how strong their attitudes are towards a lot of things. I always find myself thinking..."Hmm...sometimes I agree, sometimes I disagree strongly. Should I average these?...or consider what I think is the most likely scenario they are trying to get at?"

The test I took for this was only Yes/No.

I don't have a lot of faith in the test themselves, but the profiles are pretty damn accurate. Read a few of the profiles around what the test says and what you actually are usually pops right out.

I read one profile that listed board games INTPs usually enjoy, three of the four were my favorites. It's kind of creepy.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Script on January 20, 2012, 01:32:16 AM
I got "ENFJ".  Famous other "ENFJ's":  Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Ronald Regan.  Fuck.  I'm retaking the test.

Extraverted:  1%
Intiutive:   25%
Feeling:     25%
Judging:      33%

I don't feel like this is very accurate because a lot of the questions were difficult to answer as the answer was "yes" for certain situations and "no" for others.  But then, I don't really understand this metric and how it works.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Will on January 20, 2012, 01:47:51 AM
I got "ENFJ".  Famous other "ENFJ's":  Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Ronald Regan.  Fuck.  I'm retaking the test.

Extraverted:  1%
Intiutive:   25%
Feeling:     25%
Judging:      33%

I don't feel like this is very accurate because a lot of the questions were difficult to answer as the answer was "yes" for certain situations and "no" for others.  But then, I don't really understand this metric and how it works.

Those are all pretty close, I'd check out profiles for ENFJ, INFJ, and of course the prevalent INTJ ;) Or try a different test.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Rothbardian on January 20, 2012, 01:53:10 AM
I got INTJ - which I believe is called the mastermind - the very first (and only) time I took the test. However, I will refrain from submitting poll results until I can take it a second time.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Rothbardian on January 20, 2012, 03:20:27 AM
Alright, I got INTJ again. ;D

Introverted   Intuitive   Thinking   Judging
89%            38%         38%         11%

Geez, I'm just like the majority for once in my life!


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: rahvin on January 20, 2012, 03:47:30 AM
I got "ENFJ".  Famous other "ENFJ's":  Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Ronald Regan.  Fuck.  I'm retaking the test.

Extraverted:  1%
Intiutive:   25%
Feeling:     25%
Judging:      33%

I don't feel like this is very accurate because a lot of the questions were difficult to answer as the answer was "yes" for certain situations and "no" for others.  But then, I don't really understand this metric and how it works.

It's been recommended to me to take the test with consideration towards a particular social setting because sometimes we behave differently in different circumstances. 

So for example, when the test asked if my desk is clean or cluttered; that was a tough question for me because my home desk is cluttered and my work desk is immaculate. Try choosing a school/work/home setting and answering all the questions according to how you behave there. 

Maybe approaching it in that manner will help. 


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: JustSayNoToStatism on January 20, 2012, 12:44:59 PM
So for example, when the test asked if my desk is clean or cluttered; that was a tough question for me because my home desk is cluttered and my work desk is immaculate. Try choosing a school/work/home setting and answering all the questions according to how you behave there.  
That was a tough question for me too!!! I like keeping my desk perfectly clean, but when I get down to work I might have it look like a sea of papers for a few days or weeks at a time. I clean it all up ASAP though.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: David Giessel on March 30, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
Dead thread walking!

Introverted - 33%
iNtuitive - 100%
Thinking - 75%
Perceiving - 22%

Like JSNTS I wasn't very convinced thinking that all of the descriptions sound like yourself ... till I read them. Creepy how much better INTP fits than the others.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on June 29, 2012, 10:25:18 PM
Dead thread walking!

I like dead threads walking.  It is much more useful than having 20 threads to repeat yourself in and veteran posters eventually just yelling at new people to use the search.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Coltan L. on June 30, 2012, 02:48:10 AM
I'm more than a fan of this. Like Dave and JSNTS I was completely skeptical at first.  Afterwards I was amazed but kept my MBTI fandom in the closet, to the point of not telling friends.  Once a few friends tried it out and it totally nailed them, I cemented my opinion.

I'm INJT, seeing the poll results are a little shocking, its a pretty rare type.

I've done a decent amount reading on it and i've successfully applied it in real life. I'm not expert but I'm really impressed with it.  Its based on Jungian psychology. Jung was kind of a badass.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: David Giessel on July 01, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
I'm INJT

INTJ. Sorry, the INTP in me requires precision in language.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: MAM on July 01, 2012, 01:01:24 AM
I am INTJ apparently, whatever that means.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Coltan L. on July 01, 2012, 03:32:09 PM
I'm INJT

INTJ. Sorry, the INTP in me requires precision in language.

Lol, the INTJ in me just cares about the transmission of the idea and not the perfection of its form.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Hanzo on July 01, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
INTJ (which is what I am according to the test, which I have taken multiple times over the past 2 years) is supposed to be only 2% of the population or so. The test has to be bullshit. Or maybe 2% of the population takes up 60% of this board.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on July 01, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
INTJ (which is what I am according to the test, which I have taken multiple times over the past 2 years) is supposed to be only 2% of the population or so. The test has to be bullshit. Or maybe 2% of the population takes up 60% of this board.

That is why I posted it in the first place.   I suspected Ancaps were primarily INTx's.  As I previously said, it seemed to be on MBTI forums for specific types to trend to specific political ideologies.  


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Gozutennou on July 13, 2012, 04:28:34 PM
ISTP

ISTPs are adventurous and independent. They like to figure out how things work. They have great mechanical and technical skills. They live in the "here and now" which makes them adaptable and spontaneous. They like to keep busy and are action-oriented. ISTPs thrive on new and exciting situations.

ISTP Career Matches

ISTPs are often happy with the following jobs which tend to match well with the Craftsman/Creator personality.:
Scientist

Hehe, that's nice, i always wanted to be an Scientist  :D


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: AgoristTeen1994 on October 12, 2013, 02:48:24 PM
Anyone interested in reviving this topic?


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on October 12, 2013, 04:03:50 PM
Anyone interested in reviving this topic?

What are you interested in discussing on this topic?


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: MAM on October 13, 2013, 05:07:18 PM
I'm down.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: AgoristTeen1994 on October 16, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
What are you interested in discussing on this topic?

A mix of just general stuff, and also, considering the different types, and how rare NT's tend to be, how we might make the case for voluntaryism to other types. The hardest ones to reach IMO would be the SJ's....who also happen to be the most common  :P


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Syock on October 16, 2013, 03:59:57 PM
... how we might make the case for voluntaryism to other types.

I've been wondering that for some time.  I have no freaking idea how to reach them.  There are already tons of emotional appeals and logical appeals.  There are groups for people to join.  There are parties.  Those work on at least gaining the attention of most people.  

I think the biggest problem is peoples willingness to believe a lie.  It is hard to compete against someone with a closed mind because they believe a lie.  


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: AgoristTeen1994 on October 16, 2013, 09:43:30 PM
I've been wondering that for some time.  I have no freaking idea how to reach them.  There are already tons of emotional appeals and logical appeals.  There are groups for people to join.  There are parties.  Those work on at least gaining the attention of most people. 

I think the biggest problem is peoples willingness to believe a lie.  It is hard to compete against someone with a closed mind because they believe a lie. 

Agreed. I admit I don't have much of an idea either...but then again I'm an INTJ...I'm not some overly-emotional hippy-esque NF, or brash and impulsive SP, nor am I a solemn, state-worshiping, collectivist SJ (note SJ's from my understanding and experience tend to be among the worst for "follow the letter of the law because it is the law" type people...many of them are practically born bureaucrats! How the FUCK do we counter that?)

I think for NF's the best thing would be to appeal to their ethics...they seem most likely to support government because of "the good" it does, i.e. feeding starving children in Third-world hellholes, and provide money to old people, (Social Security) and poor people (Welfare). Convince them that to accomplish those goals, the gov't does more evil, than the good it does, and in doing so "taints" the good done and you have taken a big step. Convincing them that the private, voluntary efforts would also be more efficient, would another, albeit smaller steps.

For SJ's...I think the best thing might be to try to convince them that gov't is intrinsically anti-family, anti-community, and anti-common good....SJ's tend to dislike selfishness AND unnecessary spending, so show them that gov't by it's very nature, divorces the negative consequences of extreme, exploitative, selfishness, and money-hemorrhaging, from the actions themselves, and that you can't reform government to stop that...and that would a major step. Maybe.

SP's...I have no fucking clue.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: Seth King on February 08, 2014, 03:58:30 AM
I took a test from a different site and came out ENTJ. Some of it fits, some not so much. I don't really think of myself as an executive. I don't like the responsibility of being in charge. But I do tend to boss people around. I definitely have a my way is the right way sort of attitude, which I guess is where the executive part comes in.


Title: Re: What is your MBTI personality type?
Post by: not you on February 13, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
I've taken this test many times over the decades

INTJ everytime.

My "T" is low however, like 3% according to the tests that gives percentages.