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« on: December 31, 2012, 10:42:44 AM »

Not being threatened into paying income or general sales tax in NH is really nice, but the property tax rates can be really bad, depending where you live in NH.  This has been on my mind quite a lot lately since My wife and I really want our own place.  What we dont want,however is to be extorted.  I think property taxes are the hardest to minimize because it is impossible to hide a house.... Or is it?

My wife and I watched The Hobbit and afterwards she told me she wants to live in a hobbit hole.  That got me thinking about the property tax ramifications.  After doing some research, it appears that a slavizen isnt required to allow entry to a tax assessor, so most assessment is done as a 'drive by'.  But what if the house is almost completely covered by earth?  Seems to me that hiding a house inside a hill with only a couple of windows and a door poking out would be a great way to reduce the amount of extortion paid. 

Im going to do more research on this.
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 10:53:25 AM »



Good luck to ya!

Look into tiny house culture. There's lots of cool websites (Tiny yellow house is a great one, great youtube channel too), they have a lot of cool tiny house/incognito house designs.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 11:03:18 AM »

I would love to live in a Hobbit hole.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 12:08:39 PM »

You could look into 'Earthship' houses.  http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=earthship&sprefix=earthshi%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aearthship
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 12:43:48 PM »

I am interested in how this works out for you and in your finding please post them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2012, 04:52:17 PM »

Ha! The Shire is real!
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2012, 05:51:05 PM »

So talking to my progressive friend at work who built his own home, and whose father-in-law is a retired building constructor, said that the red tape for doing something like this is pretty loose.  Basically, draw up a floor plan, have an architect approve it, take it to the township and have them look it over to issue a building permit.  He said in all probability, they don't even care what you are building and never do inspections, unless you get some gung-ho statist bureaucrat. 

Still more research to do but this looks like the way I am going to go.  Besides, who is to say that I get a building permit for a small, 1100 square foot home, only to actually build it 4 times the size inside the hill with false walls hiding the 'non-approved' portion.

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2012, 10:11:16 PM »

So talking to my progressive friend at work who built his own home, and whose father-in-law is a retired building constructor, said that the red tape for doing something like this is pretty loose.  Basically, draw up a floor plan, have an architect approve it, take it to the township and have them look it over to issue a building permit.  He said in all probability, they don't even care what you are building and never do inspections, unless you get some gung-ho statist bureaucrat. 

Still more research to do but this looks like the way I am going to go.  Besides, who is to say that I get a building permit for a small, 1100 square foot home, only to actually build it 4 times the size inside the hill with false walls hiding the 'non-approved' portion.



Keep us posted!!! My dream home is an underground one!!
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 01:37:15 PM »

New HampSHIRE!
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 06:44:04 AM »

Anyone here look into Tumbleweed houses?

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

Drag it with a vehicle and avoid property taxes for good! Though gas might be an issue here and there.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 09:23:45 PM »

http://relaxshacks.blogspot.com/2012/12/one-of-nuttier-more-offbeat-tiny-house.html
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 09:10:41 AM »

Something folks tend to miss: Property taxes in NH are not necessarily higher than anywhere else. They are, however, the "big overt tax" that everyone sees.

Like Ayer's Rock in Australia, it's not that it's a particularly big hill, but that it stands on such a flat plain that makes it stand out so much.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 03:57:36 PM »

Thanks for the ideas everyone. I think I have a plan to make this happen.  I think my wife is coming around to the idea of living well below our means in order to put all our income toward our own home.  A couple of months ago I suggested we could buy a single wide moble home and it would reduce our rent from 1200 to about 100 a month. Then we could pay off all our debt really fast.  Next we would save for the perfect location in the hills and could slowly build it every paycheck.  After we move we could use the mobile home as a porc manor to help other freestaters move to nh.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 01:16:01 AM »

My wife and I watched The Hobbit and afterwards she told me she wants to live in a hobbit hole.
Seriously? You hit the jackpot with your wife.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 10:37:52 AM »

Hehe yeah I really did. She wont accept the labels but she is pretty much anarchist without the academic background material.  I told her I was an anarchist on our second phone conversation before our first date and she didnt flinch.  There are women out there who have the natural inclination toward liberty but they are rare.  Now we are trying to have kids.  I want a brood of sassy back talking do what they want cus your not the boss of me kinda kids...

me - " Clean your room son."

kid - " its not mine. You own it dad so clean it your damn self. Im stuck here like a slave."

me - " Thats my boy." pats head.
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