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« on: December 16, 2012, 05:37:44 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html

Somebody posted that in facebook today and I read it. All of the comments express deep sympathy for the author of this article. I don't have any sympathy for her at all. I have sympathy for her kid!

I can find several instances in that article where the mother goes against everything I believe in when it comes to parenting. This is a typical statist mother who has little respect for individuality, sends her kids to indoctrination camp, puts him in a torture house for exercising his freedom of speech. The list goes on.

This mother is way too controlling. Statists have got to be the sickest people on the planet. They raise their children so poorly and then blame the kids when they rebel.

This is why I avoid hanging out with statists. Pretty much everything they do is wrong. God help them!
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 05:45:38 PM »

On a side note, I remember what it was like for me going to school as a kid. School was the absolute worst! And I graduated in '99. I can only imagine how dehumanizing school must be for the poor kids that have to wear uniforms, go through metal detectors, gets random searches by police dogs, get put on psychotropic drugs, get fed lies all day long, and then come home to parents that aren't even capable of taking care of themselves let alone children.

Actually, in some of the Free State forums you'll sometimes see kids who are teenagers who want to run away from home and move to New Hampshire. I know there are a lot of Free Staters who would love to rescue these kids and shelter them in a safe house, but getting caught would mean serious jail time.

I hope that in the near future there is one part of the world that is "totally" protected from the state, where child refugees can flee the hell they live in for greener pastures.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 09:47:14 PM »

On a side note, I remember what it was like for me going to school as a kid. School was the absolute worst! And I graduated in '99. I can only imagine how dehumanizing school must be for the poor kids that have to wear uniforms, go through metal detectors, gets random searches by police dogs, get put on psychotropic drugs, get fed lies all day long, and then come home to parents that aren't even capable of taking care of themselves let alone children.

Actually, in some of the Free State forums you'll sometimes see kids who are teenagers who want to run away from home and move to New Hampshire. I know there are a lot of Free Staters who would love to rescue these kids and shelter them in a safe house, but getting caught would mean serious jail time.

I hope that in the near future there is one part of the world that is "totally" protected from the state, where child refugees can flee the hell they live in for greener pastures.

I would like everyone to remember this story of yours when they jump on Stephan Molyneaux for advocating 'defooing' in certain situations.

And I agree wholeheartedly concerning the article.  She honestly thinks that this brilliant young mind with more processing power than she could ever hope to have needs to be sent to an 'educational' institution that is more worried about he COLOR OF HIS FUCKING PANTS??  

And she is just flabbergasted when using punishment doesn't work when dealing with a mental deficiency?  She has no one to blame but herself.  You're honestly going to hold a child morally responsible for an outburst when they lack the mental capacity to cope with the situation?  Fuck her.  
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 10:13:07 PM »

The kid just sounds like a little brat, and doping him up with drugs and therapy isn't going to help.

He threatens to kill himself? Tell him that it's going to hurt like hell, and that you'll be standing by to bring him to the hospital if he wants.

Threatens to stab you? Tell him you can stab a lot fucking harder. The kid isn't a sociopath- he has anger issues and wants attention, and stupid shit like this woman is doing is just feeding into a negative-feedback loop that WILL make him into a sociopath.

Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 10:28:33 PM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 10:42:54 PM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 10:50:12 PM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 11:05:17 PM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.

I don't wanna drag this on, but I just wanna make clear that all I'm saying is that I take a younger person who says "I'm an AnCap" with a grain of salt. I'm not saying I'd discount their opinions or belittle them in any way- just that I'd keep in mind that there is a fairly good chance that a fair portion of their opinion stems from teenage radicalism, which may tend to cool down as they age (as a general trend, I find the young are more radical and the old more conservative (not politically just as a philosophy on life)).
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2012, 11:37:03 PM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.

I don't wanna drag this on, but I just wanna make clear that all I'm saying is that I take a younger person who says "I'm an AnCap" with a grain of salt. I'm not saying I'd discount their opinions or belittle them in any way- just that I'd keep in mind that there is a fairly good chance that a fair portion of their opinion stems from teenage radicalism, which may tend to cool down as they age (as a general trend, I find the young are more radical and the old more conservative (not politically just as a philosophy on life)).

Gotcha! I agree to a certain extent. It will be interesting though, whether or not youth AnCaps stay AnCap later in life or switch to something different. It's too early to tell now, because AnCap is so new. But I'm willing to bet that once an AnCap, always an AnCap. There's a difference between being rebellious and lacking any coherent philosophy, and being rebellious with a coherent philosophy.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 12:05:16 AM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.

I don't wanna drag this on, but I just wanna make clear that all I'm saying is that I take a younger person who says "I'm an AnCap" with a grain of salt. I'm not saying I'd discount their opinions or belittle them in any way- just that I'd keep in mind that there is a fairly good chance that a fair portion of their opinion stems from teenage radicalism, which may tend to cool down as they age (as a general trend, I find the young are more radical and the old more conservative (not politically just as a philosophy on life)).

Gotcha! I agree to a certain extent. It will be interesting though, whether or not youth AnCaps stay AnCap later in life or switch to something different. It's too early to tell now, because AnCap is so new. But I'm willing to bet that once an AnCap, always an AnCap. There's a difference between being rebellious and lacking any coherent philosophy, and being rebellious with a coherent philosophy.

My mother has told me that she thinks my philosophy stems from pure rebelliousness. I am 22.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2012, 12:31:15 AM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.

I don't wanna drag this on, but I just wanna make clear that all I'm saying is that I take a younger person who says "I'm an AnCap" with a grain of salt. I'm not saying I'd discount their opinions or belittle them in any way- just that I'd keep in mind that there is a fairly good chance that a fair portion of their opinion stems from teenage radicalism, which may tend to cool down as they age (as a general trend, I find the young are more radical and the old more conservative (not politically just as a philosophy on life)).

Gotcha! I agree to a certain extent. It will be interesting though, whether or not youth AnCaps stay AnCap later in life or switch to something different. It's too early to tell now, because AnCap is so new. But I'm willing to bet that once an AnCap, always an AnCap. There's a difference between being rebellious and lacking any coherent philosophy, and being rebellious with a coherent philosophy.

My mother has told me that she thinks my philosophy stems from pure rebelliousness. I am 22.

She's probably right. You'll grow out of it, son.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 02:18:46 AM »


Also @Seth Honestly, I wouldn't want the kids to come to NH...frankly, in your younger years your political philosophy can start off almost entirely out of a desire to rebel. Also frankly, that's how I became a libertarian. Although I have, over time, become increasingly solid in my belief in liberty, it took a lot of time, soul-searching and research before I feel sure enough to say that I'm honestly sticking to this ideology, more or less.

I think that may have been the case before the internets and Ron Paul revolution. Sure, most kids are like that. But nowadays there are quite a few 15 year olds who know their shit. Could you imagine knowing what we know now, but being 15 years old and having dumbass parents who don't know shit and don't care?

Let's be honest, the average anarcho-capitalist is light-years ahead of their peers. Being a 15 year old AnCap, that's just brutal. Unless you've got some friends who think like you do, you're basically surrounded by a bunch of mindless teenage zombies.

No, I'm firmly of the belief that there are 15 year olds out there that are more grown up than most 30 year olds.

Not saying there aren't kids like that...just saying that I'm always a bit wary when younger people adopt a philosophy that is, compared to the rest of the political spectrum, radical.

I'm just the opposite. I am wary of the kids who fall right in line.

I don't wanna drag this on, but I just wanna make clear that all I'm saying is that I take a younger person who says "I'm an AnCap" with a grain of salt. I'm not saying I'd discount their opinions or belittle them in any way- just that I'd keep in mind that there is a fairly good chance that a fair portion of their opinion stems from teenage radicalism, which may tend to cool down as they age (as a general trend, I find the young are more radical and the old more conservative (not politically just as a philosophy on life)).

Gotcha! I agree to a certain extent. It will be interesting though, whether or not youth AnCaps stay AnCap later in life or switch to something different. It's too early to tell now, because AnCap is so new. But I'm willing to bet that once an AnCap, always an AnCap. There's a difference between being rebellious and lacking any coherent philosophy, and being rebellious with a coherent philosophy.

My mother has told me that she thinks my philosophy stems from pure rebelliousness. I am 22.

She's probably right. You'll grow out of it, son.
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