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AgoristTeen1994
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« on: August 17, 2012, 03:32:55 PM »

http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/rothbard-we-must-therefore-conclude-that-we-are-not-anarchists
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 03:39:55 PM »

We were just having this same discussion. 

People just want a way to identify themselves with a single term, without having to explain all the time or be associated with something negative. 

Ancoms get angry when we call ourselves anarchists, even though we are.  To them, the word defines their belief structure, and they don't want to give it up. 

Words change meaning as people use them differently. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 03:56:39 PM »

Okay that still doesn't necessarily answer how to respond to those who use that to claim Rothbardians aren't anarchists...
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 04:03:55 PM »

Okay that still doesn't necessarily answer how to respond to those who use that to claim Rothbardians aren't anarchists...

Why waste time addressing nonsense?

Rothbard was very prolific, and this was supposedly taken from something he wrote in the 1950's?  People aren't allowed to change their minds over time? Do you have any idea how much Rothbard wrote in the 60s, 70s, and 80s?

First of all, a person doesn't have to be a Rothbardian to be an anarchist. 

2nd, go back to basics.  Anarchism merely means without a state.  It's the left-anarchists who are trying to redefine the term to mean anti-hierarchy.  They're just trying to nitpick with us, instead of bothering with substantive debate.

3rd, did you read some of those silly comments after the article?  Hilarious stuff!

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 05:01:46 PM »

3rd, did you read some of those silly comments after the article?  Hilarious stuff!

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Wow, I am glad you mentioned that.  

2nd, go back to basics.  Anarchism merely means without a state.  It's the left-anarchists who are trying to redefine the term to mean anti-hierarchy.  They're just trying to nitpick with us, instead of bothering with substantive debate.

They are redefining hierarchy as well. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 05:55:12 PM »

macsnafu you do have a point. I did address with the person who linked to  that article as "evidence" that he might have changed his mind since writing it.

And that anarchism means without a state
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 03:18:15 PM »

Anarchism merely means without a state.

Incorrect. I'm sure we're all aware that the actual definition of the word when derived from the Greek means "no ruler." Classical anarchism identified the philosophy with opposition to numerous forms of rulership, including political rule (statism), economic rule (capitalism, classical definition), and social rule (patriarchy, racism, etc). You're thinking of just the anti-statism concept, which is incomplete.

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It's the left-anarchists who are trying to redefine the term to mean anti-hierarchy.  They're just trying to nitpick with us, instead of bothering with substantive debate.

Actually, those on the right have done more to redefine anarchism and capitalism and the like. But the point of this isn't to point fingers, but to clarify so that we can more easily cooperate. If some people have said anarchism is simply anti-hierarchy, then they would be mistaken as well. Anarchism covers several concepts, with anti-statism and anti-hierarchy as important aspects.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 11:35:43 AM »

What does it matter? It's an arbitrary label. It doesn't define what you actually believe. Rothbard could call himself a fascist, and I could call myself a nanny-state anti-confluentialist. It doesn't make a bit of a difference.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 11:46:28 PM »

Response: Don't waste your time and energy with things of no import.

In other words, who cares?

From now on I am not an AnCap I am an @. Problem solved.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 02:12:35 PM »

Response: Don't waste your time and energy with things of no import.

In other words, who cares?

From now on I am not an AnCap I am an @. Problem solved.

But how do you pronounce it?

I am not
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 02:22:20 PM »

You rule nuff said. Smiley
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