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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2012, 08:19:14 PM »

What about bigass nuclear reactors in space

Much easier to collect solar as a source of heat, rather than fission or fusion.

It still remains that the power must be transmitted to where it will be used. If you can do that, there is this serious big nuclear reactor just 93 million miles away that wastes some 99 and 44/100% of all its radiant energy and will be free for the taking for the next 10 billion years or so.

Haha very true. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Tesla have plans for a some sort of solar satellite that connects to Earth with a giant copper wire or something. If my memory serves me correctly, it could power everything on Earth or something ridiculous like that.
I've heard the name Tesla and his plans to give everyone free energy many times before. And it was always from zeitgeisters and the kennedy/ufo/lizardmen conspiracy nuts. I've never heard anything from an actual scientist.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 02:58:56 AM »

I've heard the name Tesla and his plans to give everyone free energy many times before. And it was always from zeitgeisters and the kennedy/ufo/lizardmen conspiracy nuts. I've never heard anything from an actual scientist.

The history channel has done shows on it.  It is well known you can transmit energy and electricity through the air.  They even make cell phone chargers based on that.  Tesla attempted to do it, but the point at which it started to pick up any decent amount of power it just started to become dangerous and expensive.  He tried to sell it to the military as a weapon.  I believe they turned him down.

I don't believe it was ever intended as free energy, merely wireless energy.  That is a commercial failure due to no way to collect money.  Edison and his wires won on that one. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 07:40:35 AM »

I've heard the name Tesla and his plans to give everyone free energy many times before. And it was always from zeitgeisters and the kennedy/ufo/lizardmen conspiracy nuts. I've never heard anything from an actual scientist.

I'm not a zeitgeister, and I am not aware of any plans about freen energy. But then again, I don't know all that much about the guy besides the fact he had some cool ideas
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 12:44:31 PM »

I've heard the name Tesla and his plans to give everyone free energy many times before. And it was always from zeitgeisters and the kennedy/ufo/lizardmen conspiracy nuts. I've never heard anything from an actual scientist.

I'm not a zeitgeister, and I am not aware of any plans about freen energy. But then again, I don't know all that much about the guy besides the fact he had some cool ideas
I wasn't accusing you, I was just explaining why I'm dubious of any claim related to him. As far as actual facts, I have none.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 08:19:20 PM »

I've heard the name Tesla and his plans to give everyone free energy many times before. And it was always from zeitgeisters and the kennedy/ufo/lizardmen conspiracy nuts. I've never heard anything from an actual scientist.

I'm not a zeitgeister, and I am not aware of any plans about freen energy. But then again, I don't know all that much about the guy besides the fact he had some cool ideas
I wasn't accusing you, I was just explaining why I'm dubious of any claim related to him. As far as actual facts, I have none.

Tesla actually did have some very cool and good ideas.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2012, 07:52:15 AM »

Tesla actually did have some very cool and good ideas.

The dynamo, for example. And the Tesla Turbine.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2012, 11:51:16 AM »


The history channel has done shows on it.  It is well known you can transmit energy and electricity through the air.  They even make cell phone chargers based on that.  Tesla attempted to do it, but the point at which it started to pick up any decent amount of power it just started to become dangerous and expensive.  He tried to sell it to the military as a weapon.  I believe they turned him down.

I don't believe it was ever intended as free energy, merely wireless energy.  That is a commercial failure due to no way to collect money.  Edison and his wires won on that one. 

Well, that makes a lot more sense than the conspiracy theorists!  So basically, Tesla was working on broadcast power.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2012, 12:18:48 PM »

Well, that makes a lot more sense than the conspiracy theorists!  So basically, Tesla was working on broadcast power.

Yes.

"Radio" works by putting out electro-magnetic waves, which propagate through space slowly losing energy through N^^3 (same power distributed over an ever growing sphere), resistance, absorption, etc. A conductor of a length which will resonate with the frequency transmitted will absorb some of that power, which can then be amplified to reproduce the original signal.

Now what if, rather than watts or kilowatts, _real_ power radiated? Then a conductor of a resonant length would then conduct enough current to be useful without amplification.

It's a nice theory, but it fails to take into account that people don't want to be electrocuted by picking up their umbrella.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2012, 07:51:58 PM »

Again, the State complicates things.

It's said that we could reuse up to 90% of our nuclear waste as reusable fuel. The French already do this. Why can't we? The Government won't let anybody build the nuclear waste recycle center.

There are safer, cleaner reactors out there we could've built in the 50's and 60's but we didn't. Why? The U.S. military wanted the waste and fuel from the nations reactors because it's very easy to weaponize. A cleaner, safer, more efficiate nuclear reactor doesn't make good bombs.

Now, with all the fear and redtape, we can't make new reactors that are impossible to meltdown simply by how they're designed. The nuclear power plants in the U.S. are old, old tech.

Also, nuke plants use a ton of water and it would be really easy make a nuclear reactor do desalination. Nuclear aircraft carriers already do this. We'd have power and massive amounts of clean drinking water. Nuke plants on the coast could pump millions of gallons to the Midwest and other areas that have hot summers. Our water problems would be no existent.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2012, 08:09:08 PM »

tesla didn't plan to broadcast power through the air, but through the ground.  Big difference.  He argued with Hertz over a "scalar" wave versus the conventional electromagnetic waves we currently use, and the difference in utility and properties between them.  To oversimplify a bit, the earth and it's layers of atmosphere form a very large capacitor.  Tesla was simply taking advantage of this to build a circuit that would allow him to broadcast power.  Anyone who thinks he was wanting to simply build a gigantic radio transmitter to send power needs to do more research.

A lot of people back then reported various electronic devices that had over unity or similar "extra power" properties.  Keep in mind Tesla, as well as people like Maxwell and Plank, didn't use electrons in their work--aether theory was the order of the day and conservation of energy was different in those theories.  Harvesting energy from the aether is comparable to quantum theories of "zero point energy" and even modern physics accepts this, though we have yet to take advantage of it.  Tesla reported in his Colorado super coil that under certain conditions it lost resistivity, but without a proper reproduction of the system, you can't say much else than he "claimed" it.

A big problem is that Tesla is very ignored in general, and everyone thinks they know how everything works is how he thought they work, and there's not been much work to resolve his statements with modern physics.  It's a hobby I'd like to pursue in time.
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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2012, 10:55:57 AM »

nuculer.

nuculer.

nuculer.

i like solar, nuclear, and the other things that could happen in the absence of the parasite, the beast.

think this will ever fly? : toshiba micro reactor



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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 02:53:22 PM »

nuculer.

nuculer.

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Nukular.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2012, 03:21:07 PM »

Is Nuclear Waste Really Waste?

A fantastic talk.

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