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« on: June 06, 2012, 05:35:33 PM » |
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What with all the government help and handouts
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"owning a fire arm, that's a hanging offense"
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 08:28:29 AM » |
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Either the taxpayers or the workers who actually run them. I agree with Rothbard on the issue and call for workers to turn the corporations into co-ops once the state fails. Rothbard's "Confiscation and the Homestead Principle:" http://murrayrothbard.com/confiscation-and-the-homestead-principle/ |
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"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -Murray N. Rothbard
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 11:50:20 AM » |
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Shareholders own corporations.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 12:47:33 PM » |
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Shareholders own corporations.
And congressmen own the government, same difference |
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 03:04:47 PM » |
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Shareholders own corporations.
And congressmen own the government, same difference No, congressmen also run the government. |
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"I like to eat. Instead of a monarch I propose we have a Chef be final arbiter in matters. We'll call it anarcho-chefism."
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 05:08:30 PM » |
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Shareholders own corporations.
And congressmen own the government, same difference No, congressmen also run the government. I mean the tax payers own every government building, what about corporations that use the government |
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 06:29:56 PM » |
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Shareholders own corporations.
And congressmen own the government, same difference No, congressmen also run the government. I mean the tax payers own every government building, what about corporations that use the government Actually no, the taxpayers don't own government buildings. Taxpayers aren't entitled to "equity" in the government, because there is no such thing...the government serves itself. Taxpayers are assets of the government. You are livestock. In a statist world, corporations are bizarre animals. |
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 07:33:12 PM » |
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Governments make people slaves to corporations through their laws. We saw this most clearly in 2008 with the bailout of the major banks.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 01:55:22 AM » |
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As JSNTS said corporations in our current fascist system are mangled mutated beasts. Many are practically another wing of the state. But if you acknowledge that we have a fascist system its mega naive to say we own anything we didn't purchase or inherit. Just because your money was stolen from you and spent on something else doesn't mean you own the stolen goods. Assert your ownership over Chevrolet at your own risk. I suspect you'll have an unhealthy lead intake very shortly.
The only reason Chevy can steal my money and turn it into a damn Leaf is because the government does the heavy lifting for them. Sans the state, Chevy couldn't expropriate capital even if it wanted. This isn't a corporation thing, this is a government thing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2012, 02:41:23 AM » |
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Im asking if the revolution occured tommorow would it be wrong to homestead them
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2012, 11:46:08 AM » |
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Im asking if the revolution occured tommorow would it be wrong to homestead them
Nobody knows. Rather than thinking about whether it's wrong, think about what's likely to happen, what could work? I suspect the businesses would continue, but have to run on their own merits. As many failed, they would be liquidated and life would go on. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2012, 07:19:49 PM » |
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Im asking if the revolution occured tommorow would it be wrong to homestead them
How could you homestead them? What would that even look like? |
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2012, 07:22:11 PM » |
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Generally, no.
But how about specific "big corporations" that exist only because of government funding?
If I steal money from you and buy a car, do you own the car?
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2012, 08:04:36 PM » |
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Generally, no.
But how about specific "big corporations" that exist only because of government funding?
If I steal money from you and buy a car, do you own the car?
You should try and be more efficient and just steal my car. (Then yes, I would still own the car...)  |
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2012, 09:13:35 PM » |
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Free market thievery would indeed be that efficient.
But public-sector thievery would steal your money, lose half of it, buy a car with the rest, give it to a person who already has three cars, and when it breaks down it will tell them that it's all your fault for hiding your money so they couldn't steal more of it. Then next year they take your car and set it on fire.
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