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Seth King
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« on: April 28, 2012, 07:07:46 PM »

You'll notice right under the first post of every page in the forum there is a new text ad. There is a new service called bitcoinadvertisers.com you should check out. I want to know from you guys if the new ads look too tacky. Part of the reason I'm doing it is to generate revenue. No doubt about it. But I also like supporting any venture that will help compete with Google and at the same time help Bitcoin.

The people who advertise through bitcoinadvertisers are our sponsors. Click on their ads and check them out. They may have a service you would be interested in. The likelihood of it is probably greater than some generic Google ad.

Let me know your thoughts.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 08:46:20 PM »

I don't mind it in the least. I know a lot of folks don't like ads, and I can understand that (especially video ads that pop up on youtube and IMDB occasionally), but the kind of banner ads you use are perfect. The content is relevant, and not distracting.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 09:13:55 PM »

Cool. I've modified it so that it's now under the 5th post of ever page. That way it's not so in-your-face all the time.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 11:04:10 PM »

Do what you must to keep the site out of the red, as long as there's no audio and no popups. Banners are fine.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 07:08:44 AM »

The problem with ads is drive by installers, many worms and trojans are deployed that way and no ad service can really stop it.. if they even bother reviewing the ads the bad guys just put up an ad with external refs... it looks clean until they change the external server to deploy malware and bam.

Do they have an alternate url for these ads?.. I do 99% of my browsing through privoxy.. and it blocks those ads because the domain contains advert.

and fifth post so everyone can see an example vvvvvvvv   Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 11:09:57 AM »

The problem with ads is drive by installers, many worms and trojans are deployed that way and no ad service can really stop it.. if they even bother reviewing the ads the bad guys just put up an ad with external refs... it looks clean until they change the external server to deploy malware and bam.

Do they have an alternate url for these ads?.. I do 99% of my browsing through privoxy.. and it blocks those ads because the domain contains advert.

and fifth post so everyone can see an example vvvvvvvv   Grin

Can you elaborate for the layman?
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 03:28:38 PM »

The problem with ads is drive by installers, many worms and trojans are deployed that way and no ad service can really stop it.. if they even bother reviewing the ads the bad guys just put up an ad with external refs... it looks clean until they change the external server to deploy malware and bam.

Do they have an alternate url for these ads?.. I do 99% of my browsing through privoxy.. and it blocks those ads because the domain contains advert.

and fifth post so everyone can see an example vvvvvvvv   Grin

Can you elaborate for the layman?
re: drive by downloads/installers?

Wikipedia has a short article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_download.  Basic gist is exploiting a browser/os weakness to install software on the users machine without user intervention.  These are usually targeted at popular search terms, for example when the latest ipoop comes out.. almost a guarantee that some ads/paid search results for that term will have this type of payload.  There was some big football thing years ago, I had 5 people come to me with Trojans.. all they did was search/view some pages related to the football game or soccer..or whatever it was ;-)

Ad services generally do not require all files for the ad be hosted by the ad service (why spend the money for that), rather the ad service serves up a reference to the ad on another system.. or otherwise serves the files from the ad customers servers.  Because of that the ad customer can change the ad contents at any time, and unless the ad server is actively monitoring (again, why spend the money..) a nefarious person could deploy drive by installs that way.  It's fairly common.

Presumably you're not talking about the ad being blocked..
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »

The problem with ads is drive by installers, many worms and trojans are deployed that way and no ad service can really stop it.. if they even bother reviewing the ads the bad guys just put up an ad with external refs... it looks clean until they change the external server to deploy malware and bam.

Do they have an alternate url for these ads?.. I do 99% of my browsing through privoxy.. and it blocks those ads because the domain contains advert.

and fifth post so everyone can see an example vvvvvvvv   Grin

Can you elaborate for the layman?
re: drive by downloads/installers?

Wikipedia has a short article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_download.  Basic gist is exploiting a browser/os weakness to install software on the users machine without user intervention.  These are usually targeted at popular search terms, for example when the latest ipoop comes out.. almost a guarantee that some ads/paid search results for that term will have this type of payload.  There was some big football thing years ago, I had 5 people come to me with Trojans.. all they did was search/view some pages related to the football game or soccer..or whatever it was ;-)

Ad services generally do not require all files for the ad be hosted by the ad service (why spend the money for that), rather the ad service serves up a reference to the ad on another system.. or otherwise serves the files from the ad customers servers.  Because of that the ad customer can change the ad contents at any time, and unless the ad server is actively monitoring (again, why spend the money..) a nefarious person could deploy drive by installs that way.  It's fairly common.

Presumably you're not talking about the ad being blocked..

Pfff! Sounds like a problem for Windows users. I'm not going to let that narrow threat stop me from generating revenue.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 09:40:52 PM »

I doubt the anarchist and anarchy-leaning websites advertising here are going to aim nefarious scripts at fellow libertarians.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 09:56:58 AM »

I doubt the anarchist and anarchy-leaning websites advertising here are going to aim nefarious scripts at fellow libertarians.
You're making an assumption that the only advertising they will accept is from reputable people.  The ad serving companies certainly don't go about distributing malware on purpose rather they simply neglect to properly validate everything submitted to them by third parties.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 03:46:38 PM »

There is a way to prevent this from happening, stop using Gaydows and start using a real OS like Linux, nothing gets installed on Linux without superuser privileges... And considering only about 1% of the population uses Linux there aren't many viruses for it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 07:45:00 AM »

Linux is not a panacea, it brings with it other avenues of attack depending on distribution.. and failure to keep your linux box updated is just as bad as with windows and may be worse in some cases because exploitable holes in open source systems are almost always announced publicly and distributed widely. 

Good security is a multi layered system incorporating many things.  Thinking that switching to Linux will solve everything is naive.
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