That sounds nothing like the rational people that through dialogue converted me to mutualism.
Then you've met some folks whom I have not met: rational people that through dialogue can promote mutualism without resorting to force.
That's been the fatal error of every non-private-property "anarchist" I've yet met, they have not presented how they will abolish private property and money without a state to do the abolishing.
I consider them very different concepts. The voluntary socialists need not abolish anything and already peacefully coexist. We use to call them hippies. I like the hippies. The other group sees capitalism as something to destroy in order to free people from it. We call them ancoms.
Ancaps claim other forms of government and social structures can exist within ancap. Without the ancaps forcing socialists to do anything, everyone is free to setup as they wish. The same can function in reverse with the hippies. However the ancoms that are all about destroying capitalism do not offer that option (which is why we still consider them statists), nor do fascist type statists that wish to destroy socialism.
Most libertarians are still capitalistic statists, even if it is a minarchy. They are not the ones to look for support from for voluntary socialism.
The difference between ancaps and hippies is what they consider the best option available for their freely made associations.