Ron Paul's strategy is working. Is now closer than ever to securing a spot

[SinCityVoluntaryist]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/7460/ron-paul-wins-washington-on-track-to-be-nominated-at-gop-convention

 Ladies and gents, it is working. The delegate strategy that Dr. Paul initiated is paying off. With over half of the delegates secured in Minn. and Idaho, the good doc is on his way to taking Washington, which will then leave him with only two other states. Once he gets that, it is off to Tampa.

 Very exciting news. Seth, I know you've been acting pessimistic toward Dr. Paul's chances, but let this show you that he can do this. It's only a matter of time before the world is shocked.

[Seth King]

Actually, the pessimism isn't so much with him getting the nomination. Although, I never had much hope of that happening. The real pessimism is him stepping foot in the Oval Office. Even if he did win, they would kill him.

But I'd be perfectly happy to see an upset in Tampa. 

[helio]

I met him.  I voted for him at the North Dakota Caucus.

I don't want him to win.

Statism is a hurricane that is destroying society.  Ron Paul would merely be the eye of the storm.  The rains would stop.  The winds would cease, the sun would briefly come through and we libertarians would get caught in the shitstorm that followed once the eye passed. 

I had thought that maybe it would be a good thing for things to go to crap with him in power.  He wouldn't impose martial law (maybe) and let it die peacefully. 

But if I've learned anything from statists, they won't let a little thing like a president who won't wield state power stand in their way.  They would kill him, lock him up, impeach him, send him to the moon.  Nothing is going to stop them except their own self destruction. 


like Mr. Andrews said in Titanic, "This ship is made of iron.  I assure you she will sink."

[dpalme]

Statism is a hurricane that is destroying society.  Ron Paul would merely be the eye of the storm.  The rains would stop.  The winds would cease, the sun would briefly come through and we libertarians would get caught in the shitstorm that followed once the eye passed. 

Bingo. Him winning the presidency would be great. . .for about 4 years until they bring in the next guy. Then it's back to the tyrannical ways of today.

[SinCityVoluntaryist]

 I can understand the concerns about Ron Paul's safety. History has shown us that those who stand up to the Establishment are sure to be met with pain. It happened with Jackson, and it will surely happen with Dr. Paul. But that's one of the reasons why we need to wake more people up. If the government, god forbid, ever tried to do something that could harm Dr. Paul in anyway, the masses would be fed up.

[helio]

the masses would be fed up.

Which masses?  The 1 million libertarians? (or so).

The left would cheer, "Hurray, we get our welfare back."

The right would cheer, "Hurray, we get our endless wars of terror back."


I say the 'peepull' need to elect the most socialist bastard they can find and get it over with. 

[dpalme]

A lot of those 1 million libertarians are fake as well. They like Paul for some reasons, but his foreign policy is out of whack. This country is D.O.A.

[MAM]

If Ron Paul got elected it might be a catalyst to start saving the country, I mean he's been reelected to Congress for how many years? If morons who don't get it accidentally elect the right people enough times then obviously the results are the same if they do get it and elect the right people. Though my fear would be that if he was elected I doubt he would be able to fix all the problems and I bet things would still get worse, and it would all be blamed on lady liberty.

[SinCityVoluntaryist]

 
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/333906/20120426/ron-paul-2012-delegates-news-romney-convention.htm

[Mark Stoval]

I met him.  I voted for him at the North Dakota Caucus.

I don't want him to win.

Statism is a hurricane that is destroying society.  Ron Paul would merely be the eye of the storm.  The rains would stop.  The winds would cease, the sun would briefly come through and we libertarians would get caught in the shitstorm that followed once the eye passed. 

I had thought that maybe it would be a good thing for things to go to crap with him in power.  He wouldn't impose martial law (maybe) and let it die peacefully. 

But if I've learned anything from statists, they won't let a little thing like a president who won't wield state power stand in their way.  They would kill him, lock him up, impeach him, send him to the moon.  Nothing is going to stop them except their own self destruction. 


like Mr. Andrews said in Titanic, "This ship is made of iron.  I assure you she will sink."

If Ron Paul did win, you would see the idea of Austrian School Economics explained to 310 million Americans in a serious an honest way. You would see the NAP explained in a serious and honest way from the white house. You would see the reasons why the "drug war" is insane explained in a serious and honest way by the white house.

And you don't want him to win? Are you  trying to keep the idea of freedom and liberty to yourself?

Ron Paul would show the American People the ideas of the founders. Not anarchist perhaps, but libertarian at least.  And this is bad?

[Euler]

People have been assassinated in history for less than what Ron would want to do. Best case scenario, things get better for 8 years before we get back on the same inevitable track.

[dpalme]

People have been assassinated in history for less than what Ron would want to do. Best case scenario, things get better for 8 years before we get back on the same inevitable track.

Exactly. This is part of the reason I have come to that supporting Dr. Paul is slightly pointless. If Paul supporters started to try to convince people on his message more than why he would be better than Romney (though I suppose that's one in the same to an extent), we'd be much better off. Explain what the world would be like with true liberty, and not the privileges the government claims are rights, would be like.

[Mark Stoval]

People have been assassinated in history for less than what Ron would want to do. Best case scenario, things get better for 8 years before we get back on the same inevitable track.

If Dr. Paul gets assassinated, he has led a good life and had done a lot for freedom and liberty. He has made a place for himself in history. Dr. Paul as a martyr might lead to a freedom movement like the world has never seen.

Anyway, if he wins the USA gets one last shot to move back from the edge of the cliff. I fear even Dr. Paul would not hand us anarchy; but he may well make it OK to talk anarchy in polite company.

We are at the end in the USA. It will be tyranny soon or the system will fail and chaos ensues --- either outcome is not a pleasant thought. I think we are a long way from educating the young to the rational, common sense, moral correctness of Rothbardian Anarchy. We don't win simply because the democracy fails. We win when we convince the vast majority to give freedom and liberty a chance.

[Aegidius]

Dr. Paul as a martyr might lead to a freedom movement like the world has never seen.

    If they strike him down, he'll become more powerful than they can possibly imagine.

    Really, though, his educational impact cannot be understated.  I myself am only here because of Dr. Paul.  He's in it to win the presidency, and if he gets it he'll try to use it for good. (This is comparable to using the One Ring with good intentions, but at least he's better than the ones who'd explicitly and shamelessly use it for evil.)  With or without the presidency, he's having tremendous success in getting people to question the proper role of government in their lives.  Not all of them question whether it should play any role, but Paul loves to talk about Austrian economics, and once people look into that they're on a slippery slope.  Paul is a gateway drug. 

    As president, he could not only make our lives somewhat better (he wouldn't abolish the state, but he would certainly weaken it), but he would get far more attention and be an even more effective educator.  I'd rather live under anarcho-capitalism, but a choice between Paul's state and the status quo is a no-brainer.

[SinCityVoluntaryist]

 I think it's safe to say that all of us were led here with the help of the good doctor. Hell, Seth was involved in the Ron Paul movement before he became an an-cap.