Coalitions, violence, political parties, and the potential of this website

[Anonymous Infowarrior]

The LPUSA, peaceful resistance, and the elections have failed to help us achieve liberty, prosperity, and a secure existence for the children of tommorow. Liberty is under attack, the government is so sick it attacks not only it's own citizens, but other nations civilians. It creates horrific events and blames them on arabs, hicks, and crazy people (9/11, Oklahoma City Bombing, Tucson shooting). The LPUSA continues to devote itself to lazily attempting to achieve liberty through failed means. Anarcho-capitalists continue to fail to create ties with other anarchists, particularily right anarchists (national anarchists mainly). Ancaps continue to bumble around, talking about their movement, but failing to actually organize it into anything but an army for tyrannical statists who claim libertarianism without recognizing the meaning of such an ideology.
It's time for a change, a change that must occur rapidly. We must organize a coalition of anarchists. Anarcho-communists, mutualists, national anarchists, and every other anarchist variety need to unite. We must arm ourselves, form an organizations, and buy up pieces of land for use as headquarters and practice areas and bases for our group to operate. We must prepare for a revolution, and when the time is right, begin carrying out acts of violence against the government.
I am proposing that this organization start by achieving ties with other anarchist sites most notably "libcom.org"and Infoshop. Next we must make contacts with national anarchists. Eventually, we will build a coalition of sorts. We should hold a meeting in real life between these groups, eventually creating the base of a political organization. We should name it the "anarchistic coalition".
We must start now. We must contact the following groups of anarchists:
Bay Area National Anarchists
Libcom.org
Infoshop.org
National anarchist movement

I would love to spearhead this as a project, although I think Seth should really be the one in charge. Building a political organization, made up of militant anarchists of all varieties is the first step. Arming ourselves, staging public rallies, and holding a REAL LIFE meeting is the second. Preparing for an insurgency against the US government is the final step.
Please, discuss.

[Seth King]

Before anybody writes me trying to have this post removed I want you to know I'm not going to. This is a blog for ideas and there are very few things I won't tolerate on this blog and forum. Spam, poor language, offensive images, and possibly even overt statism are about it. But strategic and tactical differences are not.

That being said, calls for violent resistance are banned on every other forum. There might as well be one forum out there that permits it. And before you write me telling me that there is too great a risk in this site getting shut down, know this: This website is bankrupting me. If anything takes this site down it's not likely to be the government. If the government does take it down it will probably be doing me a favor.

[helio]

begin carrying out acts of violence against the government.

This isn't even needed.   All we have to do is concentrate geographically, begin building the organizational frameworks for the institutions that will replace state institutions, stockpiling the resources we will need to survive, and wait for all these statists to kill each other when the monetary system goes to crap.

Besides, when the money system goes down, the existing state structure will fragment into a thousand self-interested fragments. 
The problem will just work itself out.  All we have to do is get in proximity to each other and wait.

[Seth King]

All we have to do is get in proximity to each other and wait.

Enter:

http://freestateproject.org

=)

To anonymous infowarrior. Where are you located? If you're still living in statistville I have to ask why you haven't moved to New Hampshire yet? There's no point in trying to corral a bunch of anarchists if you haven't even moved to the number 1 destination yourself.

[Anonymous Infowarrior]

All we have to do is get in proximity to each other and wait.

Enter:

http://freestateproject.org

=)

To anonymous infowarrior. Where are you located? If you're still living in statistville I have to ask why you haven't moved to New Hampshire yet? There's no point in trying to corral a bunch of anarchists if you haven't even moved to the number 1 destination yourself.

I'm not in New Hampshire for a variety of reasons, which I don't really want to explain right now.
The point of my post was not really supposed to be about violence against government. It was supposed to be more about creating a coalition of anarchists, holding a meeting, and fighting for freedom (which I guess we could do peacefully up until we have enough people to perform a revolution)
The holding of a meeting where we attempt to reach out to the rest of the anarchist community (particularly National anarchists, who tend to be the closest to us ancaps) and form a political party of sorts was what I wanted people to get from the post.
I'm telling you, guys, we need to organize our movement, get some allies (aside from minarchists), and create a group for doing so. I'm talking about connecting ourselves with other anarchists.
I know some people over at Libcom, and I sympathize with a lot of the National Anarchist Movement's ideas, so I could start as soon as possible at organizing both a coalition and a meeting. All I want is your permission and your endorsement of such a project.
We can't, as a movement, be so isolated.it's hurting our credibility in other anarchist circles, failing to deliver any actual political change, and it has the potential to make our movement stop growing.

[Seth King]

I can't say I have any respect for the SPLC, but in doing a little research on "National Anarchism" I stumbled across this article. It's amusing to say the least.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/summer/national-anarchism

From the few articles and websites I visited, I can't say I'm impressed or even interested in hanging out with "national anarchists."

Anybody who wants to bash their brains out with the state is fine by me. But I'll be chilling in New Hampshire focusing on projects that create alternative institutions more so than destroying old ones.

[Anonymous Infowarrior]

I can't say I have any respect for the SPLC, but in doing a little research on "National Anarchism" I stumbled across this article. It's amusing to say the least.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/summer/national-anarchism

From the few articles and websites I visited, I can't say I'm impressed or even interested in hanging out with "national anarchists."

Anybody who wants to bash their brains out with the state is fine by me. But I'll be chilling in New Hampshire focusing on projects that create alternative institutions more so than destroying old ones.

The SPLC? Seriously?
Honestly, they are the same people who have called Ron Paul, the militia movement, and even the oath keepers racist organizations. They basically are just the democratic party's little helpers who attack any threats to the democratic party as racists. They have absolutely no basis in reality. They are known for being against freedom of speech.
National Anarchists are reasonable, respectful, and tolerant if you really look at their goals. They simply want to preserve ethnic heritage, and have a different way of looking at things than the PC establishment. They could prove useful as allies, and they, unlike basically every other group of anarchists, have managed to organize themselves exceptionally well. And that makes it very easy to build alliances with them.

[Seth King]

I'm aware that the SPLC will slap the racist label on anybody they don't like. But protecting ethnic heritage? That's a non-starter for me. That's not to say I have anything against it. With freedom comes all types of organization. Some capitalist, some communist, some ethnic or religious.

Do I consider them enemies? About as much as I do anarcho-syndicalists. I don't want to fight them. I don't want to help them. I'd rather just do my own thing. But I have no problem with them getting a fair shake. So, please. Give us a link to your favorite national anarchist website.

[Anonymous Infowarrior]

I'm aware that the SPLC will slap the racist label on anybody they don't like. But protecting ethnic heritage? That's a non-starter for me. That's not to say I have anything against it. With freedom comes all types of organization. Some capitalist, some communist, some ethnic or religious.

Do I consider them enemies? About as much as I do anarcho-syndicalists. I don't want to fight them. I don't want to help them. I'd rather just do my own thing. But I have no problem with them getting a fair shake. So, please. Give us a link to your favorite national anarchist website.

Look, I am not exactly a national anarchist (although I sympathize with their militant anti-zionism). It's just that they continue to prove that they know how to organize groups way better than any other type of anarchist, and the only two types of anarchists that are really growing are Ancaps and national anarchists, so they would be very good allies. And they really, really, really hate war. Left anarchism is slowly dying out. Right anarchism is gaining ground quickly, but only one type of right anarchist is organizing itself, and that is national anarchists. If we build a coalition with them, that means that we can get their help organizing ancaps, which is very, very useful. Plus anarcho-capitalism and national anarchist could go together.

[ErikAnarchy]

I have issues with forming alliances with groups that are even vaguely racist/promote violent conflict. It de-legitimizes our message. How can we be the alternative to the violent, race separating ways of the State if we are connected with a group that supports (in some way) the same thing? Again I agree that they have every right to believe what they may, but that doesn't mean we should be associated with it.

[Seth King]

Even if the National Anarchists didn't have questionable motives, it's extremely difficult to get a bunch of AnCaps to do anything with each other, let alone with anarchists of different stripes. It's really a losing proposition, in my opinion.

[helio]

Even if the National Anarchists didn't have questionable motives, it's extremely difficult to get a bunch of AnCaps to do anything with each other, let alone with anarchists of different stripes. It's really a losing proposition, in my opinion.

Herding cats =)

I will be very disappointed when I get to NH if I don't meet any ancaps to hang out with and have discussions, plan events, and organize activities with.   

[Seth King]

Even if the National Anarchists didn't have questionable motives, it's extremely difficult to get a bunch of AnCaps to do anything with each other, let alone with anarchists of different stripes. It's really a losing proposition, in my opinion.

Herding cats =)

I will be very disappointed when I get to NH if I don't meet any ancaps to hang out with and have discussions, plan events, and organize activities with.   

You should be able to find whatever you're looking for. Just don't expect ALL free staters to be interested in the same things you are. It's best to seek out like-minded and go from there. Things tend to be separated by geography. From what I know about you, you might do well in the Portsmouth area. Young, intelligent, professional types that are into work related activism as opposed to partying and in your face disobedience. I gravitated towards Grafton County. Independent, rugged, outdoorsy, survivalist types.

[Anonymous Infowarrior]

Even if the National Anarchists didn't have questionable motives, it's extremely difficult to get a bunch of AnCaps to do anything with each other, let alone with anarchists of different stripes. It's really a losing proposition, in my opinion.

That's kinda the whole point, actually.
Ancaps are failing epicly to organize those with the anarcho-capitalist ideology. If we fail to organize, how are we supposed to get what we want?
We need to figure out how to organize, and the national anarchists know how to do it. If we can get them to help us build a party (I'm thinking "right anarchist alliance"), we will no doubt be the majority within the said party, and if we still feel so threatened by these other anarchists, we can eventully break away from them. But the point is that we need to organize, and we can do it by getting together with another group of anarchists that have long been shunned by the rest of the anarchists. Let's face it, national anarchists and ancaps are relatively new to the anarchist scene, have been ripped apart by other anarchists, and are itching for freedom to put their ideas into practice. The only difference is ancaps have failed to organized in 40+ years, and national anarchists have created an extremely organized movement with groups and everything in 20- years. They are good at organizing, and we aren't. Thus, if we create a party, where both groups are accepted, we get their expertise on how to build an organization, and because we are the larger group, we basically would run the party after that.
Also, I've contacted a New York group of national anarchists, so I think they should be able to make it to new hampshire, so if it is in new hampshire, Seth, would you be willing to go to it?

[Seth King]

We'll see. I don't really see much point in organizing in the traditional sense. We're all individuals and I don't want anybody speaking for me. Also, no matter what I say I will definitely not be speaking for other anarcho-capitalists. Hell, many AnCaps don't even like being called AnCaps. The best way to organize, in my opinion, is to start agorist businesses.