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Rothbardian
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« on: March 15, 2012, 11:50:44 PM »

So I'm sure you have seen the poster Xerographica on forums. If not, here's the dude's blog: http://pragmatarianism.blogspot.com/. Well, in the following essay, me and a friend disprove his position in full, with chiefly economic but also moral argumentation: http://libertariananarchy.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/hello-world/
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 06:46:07 PM »

Good job!

I hope Mutualists are in your crosshairs next???
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 07:14:53 PM »

Hey, thanks for the compliment! No, I hadn't considered mutualism, actually; now that you bring it up, it does sound like a great idea for a future essay. I'll add it to our list, though I think both of us will have to do a little reading on it. (I don't think either of us have read that body of literature). What we are considering, and are maintaining on the list:

-Consequentialist vs. Deontological
-For Political Anarchism
-A Libertarian Theory of Enfranchisement
-Liberty and Tradition
-A Rothbardian Abortion Theory (though this would be solo, Cardosi as a pro-lifer disagrees with my unique stance based on the original Rothbardian theory)
-How Would ___ Work in an Anarchist Society
-Mutualism Disproved (thanks to Derick's suggestion)

All that said, I'm glad you enjoyed the essay. One of our next essays we may want to try to get published here, on DA.

As far as pragmatarianism goes, Xerographica wrote a "rebuttal" to our arguments: http://pragmatarianism.blogspot.com/2012/03/pragmatarianism-disproved.html
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 07:47:35 PM »

I'd keep "Mutualism Disproved" off the list at least until you've read it! (disclaimer: I haven't read it either).
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 09:26:02 PM »

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-Consequentialist vs. Deontological
-For Political Anarchism

I'd be especially interested in your thoughts on these two subjects. Your in favor of the deontological position, correct?

I'd also love to see you try and 'disprove' mutualism. Come at me bro Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 09:34:50 PM »

Yeah, I hold the deontological position, both with Hoppean argumentation ethic and Rothbardian Natural Rights. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 06:54:44 AM »

"Pragmatism" has always seemed to equal "the end justifies the means" to me. Every time I hear the word I think "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".

Closely related is the "lesser of two evils" when voting in the American system. As an example, my wife voted for Obama last cycle because she feared that Mr. McCain was crazy and might start wars all over the place. She now looks to not vote this time just as I do after seeing that there was essentially no difference in the candidates.

Being "pragmatic" is normally what one claims when he is doing evil. "I don't wanna do this! I have to!"

Nice essay at the like by the way; and I bookmarked your site.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 10:32:27 AM »

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-Consequentialist vs. Deontological
-For Political Anarchism

I'd be especially interested in your thoughts on these two subjects. Your in favor of the deontological position, correct?

I'd also love to see you try and 'disprove' mutualism. Come at me bro Tongue

I don't quite know how one disproves an idealogy. But we're about to find out Tongue.

Not quite sure where I fit in ethically. My view on things seems most closely related to ethical egoism, which is apperently consequentialist. But my knowledge on formal ethics pretty much comes from wikipedia
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 02:24:01 PM »

But my knowledge on formal ethics pretty much comes from wikipedia

Don't belittle your wiki-knowledge!
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